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Travis doesn't have a top, but he implores you not to buy the trade desk.
Context Anand Chokkavelu: ... For a top it, Toby prefers the trade desk for more potential reward despite admitted risk. Travis doesn't have a top, but he implores you not to buy the trade desk.
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Anand Chokkavelu: Welcome
latest Motley Fool Scoreboard. I'm Anand Chokkavelu. We've got longtime fools. Travis Hoium and Toby Bordelon
giving a 1-10 rating to a top 200 stock in the primary Hidden Gems
database. It's ZETA Global. Ticker symbol Z-E-T-A, right the strength of
ZETA's business first, including factors like
industry and competition. Travis is excited for it. He's at an eight. Toby's
at a solid seven. Toby Bordelon: Yeah, ZETA is
a marketing tech company. I guess is the most succinct
way to describe it. The software and data
that companies can use to find capture retained
customers, that sort of thing. Their tech helps with
targeted ads and marketing campaigns across
multiple channels out there. It does have its strengths. Marketing dollars are shifting towards AI driven applications. ZETA does that very well. Business growth
hasn't been strong, average revenue per
user expanding. It feels very crowded, though, and ZETA competes
against a lot of strong players with a
lot of resources there. There was a short seller report a couple years ago
that hurt them a bit. They seem to have mostly moved forward from that
near as I can tell. Travis Hoium: But yeah, I think this is one of the more attractive companies
on the market today. If you want to look at why is the trade desk
stocks plummeting, it's because companies like ZETA are taking that business. I think GAAP is actually
one of the examples. Moved its entire
business to ZETA Global. Their real advantage is
the data that they have, and they say that
their data is really only rivaled by some of
the big tech companies, so like alphabet and meta. You combine ZETA's
proprietary data with the data that you
have as a big advertiser, and they typically
just work with those really big
companies, the GAAPS, the Nikes of the world that are spending hundreds of millions, billions of dollars
on advertising. They don't kind of deal
with the smaller fries. But you combine
those two things, and that's where they
get their advantage. They also have an AI platform
called Athena that was launched recently
where the people who are working with this
can just talk to it. Hey, I'm looking
for some customers to sell this kind of shoes. Where should I be advertising, and Athena will pull
that out for you. I love where they're at right now that is backed up
with their financials, they have the opportunity to go down market and
actually work with smaller companies and also move into business intelligence. This is something that management is starting
to talk about. When you have your
hooks in a business, when you have this
proprietary data, you have the AI tools
to put on top of it, that's interesting
optionality for the business long term. Anand Chokkavelu:
Stock management. A 10 is Warren Buffett, a one is Homer Simpson. Travis is at an eight,
Toby you're at a six. Toby Bordelon: Yeah,
look, fun facts here. One of the co founders was
former Apple CEO John Sculley. The one that everyone kind of forgets about because
his tenure was. Anand Chokkavelu:
For good reasons. Toby Bordelon: Apple.
Yeah. Another co founder, David Steinberg,
he's still there. He's CEO and Chair, doing a good job. I
think management's fine. Nothing really stands out to
me is why I went low here. Stock based comp is
pretty high too. I don't love that. But that's
this type of business. I think there are still
some lingering questions for me about that
short seller report, although I get that
most people have probably moved beyond
that right now. But the trust just isn't super high for me when I
look at the scene. Travis Hoium: Yeah,
I went much higher. Steinberg is one of
those people that either comes off as a genius or a used car salesperson
depending on how you want to interpret him
if you like a interviews, and if you're interested
in this company, I would encourage you to listen to some of
those interviews because he can be kind
of a polarizing person. But what I would say
is that they have, since I've been following the company over the
past couple of years, they have just
consistently delivered. They set bars that they continue to beat
quarter after quarter. I think they have
something like 19 consecutive beat
and raise quarters. They just continue to do exactly what they say
that they're going to do. If you're looking at
management teams, that's all we can judge
them on long term. Also, I love the fact that Steinberg is one of
those co founders, because that just gives you
a little bit more cachet when things need to
change at a company, you need to change
directions, you need to go all in on this product
called Athena. That's maybe a little bit harder to do if you're
from the outside. Anand Chokkavelu: Financials
a 10 is a fortress, a one is the Yikes. Travis is a nine, Toby,
you're the Serving. Toby Bordelon: Yeah,
financials are nice here. Balance sheet is fine. [inaudible] growing very well. On the top line, it looks good. Revenue margins expanding
rapidly. I like to see that. I hit them a little bit because we're just
recently GAAP positive here, and the company still has a ways to go to me to prove they can be sustainably profitable. Management is guiding for GAAP profitability
for the full year, but it's just barely there, so we'll see if they hit that. Travis Hoium: Yeah, ZETA Global grew 50% in the most
recent quarter. If that's nice, I will take
nice all day as an investor. I love that from Toby. But look, I think things are absolutely heading
in the right direction. With a company like this, you're going to want to look
for that revenue growth if they're able to grow, 25% plus. I don't think 50% is probably
sustainable long term. They're able to grow at this
really high growth rate. I'm less worried about margins. They'll be able to turn
those margins on later. We're also having a lot
of these AI tools where they're kind of not quite
pricing that in yet. They're not charging for something like
Athena yet, extra. It's just kind of
an added service, so they're eating a
bit of those AI costs. I think there's plenty
of opportunity to increase those margins and
that profitability later on. Much more worried
about revenue growth, and that is absolutely
phenomenal right now. Anand Chokkavelu:
All right, Travis, let's move on to valuation. How will ZETA Global stock do over the next five
years and how safe is it? Ten is a sure thing,
one's lottery ticket. Travis Hoium: I think
this is going to be an absolute market crushing stock, I said, 15% plus. I love the growth. I love the optionality to
expand the business. It's also a relatively
small company. It's less than a $5
billion market cap, and the valuation is pretty compelling when you look
at those growth metrics. The enterprise value to
sales is just 3.3 right now. We did Caterpillar yesterday. Their enterprise value to sales is double they're
growing about 5%. Here's a company
that is growing at a 25% compound annual growth rate over the
past three years. I think that could
be even higher over the next three.
Love the valuation. It's not the safest stock because there is a lot of
competition in this space. A company like the Trade
Desk could come back, so there's maybe some
ebbs and flows there, but right now I love
the risk reward. Toby Bordelon: Yeah,
I want 10%-15%, a little less optimistic, but I'm guessing
we do see market being returns over the
next five years here. Safe score is five for me. It's one of those high growth
companies that's at risk if the growth if they stumble on the growth
aspect, right. If they can keep it
up, we'll be fine. But there's risk there. I think, overall, it's probably a reasonably fair price to pay for the
growth we're seeing, if you go in understanding that if suddenly that
were to come down, you're going to get
a hit on the stock. Anand Chokkavelu: Thanks to
both Toby and to Travis, they've given ZETA Global a strong overall score
of 7.4 out of 10, with safety being the
lone fly in the ointment. For a top it, Toby
prefers the trade desk for more potential reward
despite admitted risk. Travis doesn't have a top, but he implores you not
to buy the trade desk. Clearly, this is one we're
going to have to revisit soon. I think last time we did it, it got a score above eight. Look out for a new
scoreboard every market day at 7:00 P.M. Eastern. Next up is Axon. Till then, Fool on.
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