They are and continue to be the place where you would build out your portfolio, or at least start thinking about building out a portfolio here.
Contexte
“All of this is to say the walled gardens in the middle have accrued so much power and sopped up so much of the money flowing through these relationships over the last two and a half decades. They are and continue to be the place where you would build out your portfolio, or at least start thinking about building out a portfolio here.”
They are and continue to be the place where you would build out your portfolio, or at least start thinking about building out a portfolio here.
Contexte
“All of this is to say the walled gardens in the middle have accrued so much power and sopped up so much of the money flowing through these relationships over the last two and a half decades. They are and continue to be the place where you would build out your portfolio, or at least start thinking about building out a portfolio here.”
They are and continue to be the place where you would build out your portfolio, or at least start thinking about building out a portfolio here.
Contexte
“All of this is to say the walled gardens in the middle have accrued so much power and sopped up so much of the money flowing through these relationships over the last two and a half decades. They are and continue to be the place where you would build out your portfolio, or at least start thinking about building out a portfolio here.”
this is a good buy the dip candidate for yourself and for your portfolio.
Contexte
“Hopefully we've given you the information that you need to make a decision on whether or not this is a good buy the dip candidate for yourself and for your portfolio.”
Transcription Complète
In 2026, three companies are on
track to take around two-thirds of the total spend on digital
advertising: Google, Meta, and Amazon. Digital advertising is heading towards
a trillion-dollar market, and most of that is flowing through these closed
systems that these three companies have. Yeah, the so-called walled gardens. The interesting question that we're
gonna address in this video today is how did a mobile gaming company that
most investors had never heard of prior to a few years ago, no one had ever
talked about the company AppLovin. Two and a half years ago. We've come a long way since we
broke ground on this in 2023. If you go on X right now, you're gonna
see a lot about AppLovin because the stock fell 38% or around there after
their most recent earnings report. But how does this small company
carve out a niche in digital ads? That's what we're gonna talk about today. And to do that, we need
to start from the bottom. We'll lay a foundation and build this out
because that's how you're gonna understand how this happened, what AppLovin does,
and how it plays in this market with other bigger players in digital advertising. And we're gonna build this out from
two ends of the spectrum because I think at a high level, we're gonna talk
about this in terms of a supply chain. You know, the buzzword in
previous years was a flywheel. What's the flywheel when investing
in an internet business, a digital ads based company? But, supply chain actually fits too. We can swap in flywheel for supply chain. It's better SEO or AI EO. Yeah. AEO.
I guess SEO doesn't even matter anymore. Who cares about that? We're all about AI optimization now. So Kasey, I think we should probably
just explain at a very high level that digital advertising, marketing is
almost like the stock market itself. You have a buyer and you have a seller,
and when they agree on a price in the middle, money changes hands and
something of value exchanges hands. With the stock market or the bond market
or whatever, it's a financial instrument. In digital advertising, it's an ad. An
ad gets served to a user when companies behind the scenes come to an agreement. On the demand side, the company that
wants to market, and the supply side, the company, usually a publishing company
that has an advertising slot available. They come to an agreement, a sale is
made, boom, you get an ad. And there's actually more than just those two parts. We're gonna break this down into five
parts so that you can understand the digital advertising space as a whole. We refreshed these slides that we made
from last year when we were talking about The Trade Desk and AppLovin. But as Nick said, there's a
demand side and a sell side. We have that represented here. And all of those logos that you
see, all these companies on this slide all participate in this, but
the companies Google, Meta, Amazon are definitely the leaders in this. They have reinvented this because each
of these companies built a self-serve ad platform where pretty much anybody
with a credit card can buy ads in just a few minutes and set it up. And then they also have
their own inventory. They have search results, YouTube,
if you're Google or Alphabet, the Facebook feed, Instagram and Reels. So they're not renting space from anyone
else, they're actually who own that. So they fit both sides of this
platform, demand side and sell side. Yeah.
It's a really powerful model. That's the old flywheel effect, if
you've been investing since the 2010s. And one of the reasons why this has
been such a smash hit for investors in the early days of the internet was not
just because everything started headed towards digital format, internet format. You could track users across the
internet, see what they were doing, what they were clicking on, cookies,
track them with little, embedded digital code on their web browser. You could target demographics as a big
brand, and because of all that, the value of a digital ad was worth a lot more than
traditional formats: television, broadcast TV, cable TV, newspapers, billboards
that you drive by on the freeway. All of that is harder to
track, so migrating to digital ads unlocked more value. But even more than that, especially
Google and Facebook early on helped really explode the amount
of advertising happening from small and mid-size businesses. Maybe in the past if you were a
small business, a local business, you advertised in your local newspaper
or you advertised in the phone book. Does anybody else out there
remember the phone book? Let alone buying an ad in the phone book? I think I've just aged myself. It's interesting though, to this
day, the median-sized advertiser for Google and Facebook is probably
a small business, but maybe in the past they spent tens or hundreds of
dollars on advertising every month. Some of these companies can now spend
thousands of dollars on advertising every month because they know who
to target, and their audience is now much larger than just local. It might be nationwide,
it might even be global. So the advertising market, thanks to
the internet and digital technology, really just went crazy, and that was
the early success of these businesses, and still the enduring success. We're going on three, four years
now of the best use of AI, still probably digital advertising. In recent years, there's been a lot
of companies that have gone to the ad tech side of things, trying to
develop ways to either be on the left side of this chart as a DSP or on the
right side of this chart as an SSP. Some of these names, of course,
you'll recognize the Trade Desk, that was one that we liked, but
had some real struggles recently. Adobe, Salesforce also on this DSP side. On the supply side, helping
publishers, Roku, Magnite, PubMatic, Snapchat, even that one. Well, ultimately, all of this is to
say this has been a little bit more of a volatile style of business. A lot of these companies have had
a lot of boom and bust periods in especially their stock price. They in no way have had as much
success as these walled gardens. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and many of them have also tried
to emulate the walled garden business model, developing both a demand side
and a supply side, but nothing nearly as robust as the walled gardens. Part of that also, missing piece of
this, we talked about last week with the series with the CDNs and controlling
the IT infrastructure itself, the walled gardens also control that. Huge benefit where not only are you
controlling both sides of the digital ad ecosystem, but man, you also have control
over your compute and the infrastructure itself in delivering the ad. That's
the other part that's missing from these companies on this list as well. So now let's tie AppLovin into this. How did they become one of the largest
software companies in the world? Especially just the last couple of
years, and all in digital advertising, going up against the big walled gardens. It was mobile games. That was certainly a little
surprising for me to understand. But AppLovin, in 2012, started
something very unglamorous. They were helping mobile game
developers find new players. So you'd be playing a game, there's
a pause in the game, your eyeballs are looking at your phone screen,
can't wait for that next level of Candy Crush, and you see an ad for
another game, and you think, " Maybe I'd like to play that game." I need to download another game. Exactly. And we're gonna get to why that has
worked against AppLovin more recently. Mobile gaming was much higher
growth a decade ago than it is now. It's still expected to be
probably a mid-single digit total market growth industry. The largest and fastest growing segment
of the video game industry, which is still huge and it's still growing. So it's not like this market is all
tapped out for AppLovin, but that's originally how they did it, and then
they had the Axon 2.0 AI-powered software suite a few years ago that
came out that supercharged that. The algorithm was really great at matching
the right gamer with the publisher, the developer of the mobile game app. And this is where you see AppLovin
paired up in our slide here with other software companies like
Unity, another game developer, and Digital Turbine, as well as Taboola. Yeah, and this is why, AppLovin
isn't really a DSP or an SSP. It's more like a
marketplace in the middle. Its algorithms help embed those ads
directly on the app, and the way that they were able to compete, because you should
automatically think, doesn't Google and Meta already do that with their various
pieces of software and applications that control both the demand and the supply
side, both the marketing relationship and the publisher relationship?" Yeah, they do. But AppLovin was able to wiggle its
way in there, and one of the ways they created their own flywheel
or supply chain was early on, they actually started buying and developing
their own mobile apps themselves. So they understood early on the best
way to actually compete with these big walled gardens was to, in a way, create
your own walled garden in your own right. Now, you probably know AppLovin sold its
game studios to Tripledot in exchange for cash and a minority equity stake
in that privately owned mobile game developer conglomerate last year in 2025. So they're not a walled
garden per se anymore. They don't have their own in-house
flywheel, which is probably why they've been looking at developing some sort
of social media app or some other platform to kind of get that back. That's why they were talking about
making a bid for TikTok and why there have been other conversations over the
course of the last year that maybe they develop some competitor to Facebook
or X, Twitter, something like that, so that they can get some control back and
provide an outlet for their marketers, especially as they're starting to break
out of just mobile game advertising, user acquisition, and now getting into
direct-to-consumer brand advertising. Shopify is a feeder. There's a Shopify integration where
if you have an e-commerce store set up on Shopify, you can now utilize
those same algorithms that helped make AppLovin's AI-powered algorithms so
great for mobile game acquisition. We'll see how that plays out, but
one risk here is the higher level of competition as they get into e-commerce. Again, that's where Meta and Google and
of course Amazon play very prominently. And how do they kind of walk down
that relationship on both sides, on both the demand side, the marketing
side, and the publisher side? And we're not gonna go into great detail
in this video on this, but there's some other software companies in the
middle that work on ad measurement, data management, and security. These companies actually have fared
even worse in this environment. But be aware that there are also
some players here that you can take a look at in the future. No moats in software, only fast cars,
and it's pretty easy to grab these analytics tools and just implement
them in your own platform, be it DSP or SSP or especially the walled gardens. They can do it too. So we've covered the business
model of the walled gardens. We're now talking about
AppLovin and how it fits into the digital advertising space. What would be even more helpful to us
is to understand this supply chain, flywheel, whatever you wanna call it. And we're gonna build out this
supply chain using our new Build Your Custom Supply Chain tool
over at chipstockinvestor.com. Nick, let's start with Google. I think that's an excellent place
to start, and we'll show you the financial features of this to see
how you can pinpoint in any supply chain, flywheel, and we'll show
you how you can use the financial features on this to pinpoint who's
accruing the most value to themselves within a supply chain, a flywheel, an
industry, whatever you wanna call it. So Kasey, you refreshed those slides
showing the DSPs on the left, the demand side, the walled gardens
in the middle, and the SSPs on the right representing publishers. You had mentioned we're gonna
break this down in five parts. Here it is. I just made this template up really quick. I just fast-forwarded here and set up
a new group of supply chain segments. Let's start with the two outside
segments: brand companies on the left and media companies on the right. Just to help illustrate what's going
on here and the relationship with the software and technology in the middle. Because really, these companies on
the left, brand companies deserve their own separate analysis. You need to figure out the product,
how they make the product, how they get it into the hands of customers. And on the right, media and
entertainment, also different. You know, what's the
quality of the content? How do they get it in
front of people's eyeballs? How efficiently do they monetize it
with ads and subscriptions and whatnot. So kind of a separate thing, but
we wanna put them here anyways just to help illustrate the point. You picked these out. I get to pick the brand companies
and the media companies. So let's go with McDonald's. I'm loving it. I see you called that consumer goods. Could also be called heart
attack waiting to happen. And then Dutch Bros. The diabetic maker. The diabetes waiting to happen. And then on the right
side, let's do Disney. I actually picked that one. Yeah.
You hate Disney? As a media company, yes. Disneyland. You love it. I love it. And Comcast, NBC Universal. Fair. Okay. Take it away. Let's go left to right. Historically, a brand company is
going to deal with the Mad Men. Like the TV show, like the
big marketing agencies. The biggest one in the world, a company
called Omnicom, just acquired a peer. Let's just look at the financials here. You'd have to dig into this a little
bit more on an individual basis to know that the revenue is not actually
growing 41% over the last 12 months. I think it's over 60% on a
standalone quarterly basis. That's because of the big
acquisition of Interpublic, IPG. But a big hint here, these pretty old
businesses, marketing agencies, operating margins, mid, high single digits, free
cash flow, low to mid-teens profit margin. Okay. Earmark that. And then also, in recent years, these
marketing agencies will work with a DSP software technologist like The Trade Desk. In prior years, this was actually a much
faster growing business, but notice how the revenue growth rate is starting to
converge with the marketing agencies. We're in single digit revenue growth, if
not year-over-year contraction now for The Trade Desk as they manage through some
ad brand awareness marketing pullback. However, higher profit margins, at least
as of right now on a GAAP operating basis and a free cash flow basis, some really
healthy double-digit profitability. But let's compare that with Google. Let's compare the financials for Google,
the big walled garden that controls both sides of this relationship. High revenue growth and
really high profit margins. Of course, free cash flow
margin down significantly. That's because they are building
AI data centers like crazy. But, you can still get the idea here with
the operating profit margin on a GAAP basis well over 30% off of a very massive
and still fast-growing revenue base. Now on the supply side, there's some
companies, SSPs, or it's oftentimes called yield management software. Let's just go with Magnite. These guys would typically be used by a
publishing company or a media company to help manage their ad inventory and help
them get the most bang for their buck. Similar thing going on here
as with the demand side. Again, revenue growth has begun
to converge with the industry average, the overall marketing and
digital advertising market average. Operating margins and free cash
flow margins are higher though. There is that, if you're looking at
these companies, they have been able to drastically increase their profitability
compared to some of the disasters that have been going on in media. Just by way of example, Disney, subpar
operating and cash flow margins. All of this is to say the walled gardens
in the middle have accrued so much power and sopped up so much of the money
flowing through these relationships over the last two and a half decades. They are and continue to be the
place where you would build out your portfolio, or at least start thinking
about building out a portfolio here. Okay, so after looking at this supply
chain, talking about these various areas of the supply chain and who's the
real winner, the walled gardens, let's add a new group and add in AppLovin. Let's call it mobile marketplace. Perfect. And we'll pull up the
financials of this one as well. We're not gonna do a quarterly review. You probably know their revenue growth
on a quarterly basis has dropped into the 50% range, and one of the big concerns is
on a sequential basis, they've guided for mid 40% year-over-year revenue growth. And we're gonna talk about here as they
now move into e-commerce beyond just their little niche that they carved
out in mobile gaming, can these profit margins, almost 70% free cash flow
margin, operating margins approaching 80%. Is that going to last? That's one of the questions, right? Exactly. Also in our opinion, one of the
reasons that the stock took a bit of a header after the Q2 report. When you have margins like that,
there's not a lot of room to go up, but there is plenty of room to go down. And part of this is they have to train
new algorithms to address these new e-commerce customers here on the left,
headed up by, let's just say Shopify, just for the sake of comparison, because
a lot of the direct consumer companies, they would probably also forge their own
independent relationship, and a lot of the smaller businesses maybe will just work
through Shopify, smaller, non-publicly traded, even just, mom-and-pop shops,
aspiring entrepreneurs, startups. And on the supply side, I'm gonna
leave this blank because this would be the mobile game ecosystem
that AppLovin has developed. Like the minority stake they still hold
in Tripledot, and we'll see how they develop the supply side of this chart. But that is the question for AppLovin. Can they keep up the pace of growth? And are the profit margins going
to take a hit as they do so? We're gonna click on AppLovin and
go to the company analysis page. I'm gonna scroll down to the bottom to the
Financials section of the Company page. Let's click on quarterly. This is the issue. You can see the trajectory
of revenue growth. Obviously, we can't expect fifty
percent plus revenue growth for forever, but it has started to taper off. And paired with that, what
is the market worried about? These operating profit margins
taking a hit simultaneously. Let me pull up EBITDA margin here
rather than the operating margin. You can immediately see
why the market is worried. If revenue growth is about to slow
down, maybe even flatline, like AppLovin did a few years ago during
the last bear market, advertising is actually a cyclical software end market,
and the profit margins take a hit. This is why the stock has fallen. It's not that AppLovin
is necessarily doomed. This is going to come down to execution. Can they re-accelerate their revenue and
keep profit margins high enough that value continues to get added for shareholders? But you can immediately see a similar
theme here with some of the other boom bust stories and companies that have
never come back from a cycle down. They just busted and as
of yet have not come back. It can be a really
devastating combination. So this is what it boils
down to at this point. Can AppLovin keep its revenue growing
and will the profit margin cycle as they invest in e-commerce and train new AI
algorithms for the placement of those direct-to-consumer e-commerce brands? Will those profit margins also
stay elevated, or if they do go down, will they recover? So if you've been following us for
a while here at Chip Stock Investor, you know that we've been AppLovin
shareholders for quite some time now. It's been a few years. We're very happy with having
the stock in our portfolio. It's a pretty decent sized position in
our portfolio, so personally we're not going to be adding even though the stock
price has pulled back significantly. We have bought the dip a number of
times in the last couple of years, it's grown to be a pretty decent sized
position in our portfolio, so we're not adding personally at this time. But hopefully we've given you the
information that you need to make a decision on whether or not this
is a good buy the dip candidate for yourself and for your portfolio. I guess maybe we should add here that
this is kind of a classic mistake. When the stock price is doing
well, everybody feels really confident about the business. They have so-called conviction, and then
you see like the conviction calls wither and dry up after the stock price declines. If we had the room in our portfolio, I
think we still actually have conviction in the business itself and management's
ability in the past, based on their track record, to grow and expand the
business over time and really do a fantastic job rewarding shareholders. So the stock price alone isn't the
concern, and if that is affecting your conviction in the business,
do give this one a deeper look. Compare it to other companies you
may have in your portfolio, and I think this is why we always shy
away with the conviction calls and instead just talk about allocating
the capital across various companies. Try to find true diversification
and then let the businesses duke it out and battle it out. There's no need to blow up the portfolio
on something because really where we're at right now with AppLovin is they are
in the midst of some sort of cycle. It could get more rough from here, and so
we need to leave some room for reanalyzing the business and saying, "Hey, you know,
it actually doesn't look like they're going to execute well this round." Maybe Unity is going to do better. Maybe the walled gardens are gonna
figure out how to take back some of that mobile advertising market share. It could happen. Things change. Things change. But instead, just look at the risk to
reward profile, which at the moment appears to be pretty decent, pretty good. If you liked it a couple months ago, it
doesn't appear anything at the moment has changed other than the market just
discounting the higher competition in e-com and the need for them to spend more
money to grow into this new vertical. So if you liked it then, I don't
see why you wouldn't like it now. But at the same time, let's be
rational and right-size the position in the portfolio accordingly. And we've given you a peek at the
research platform that we use every day here at Chip Stock Investor. It's going to be released to all of our
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