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You can keep it in the family and buy the faster growing NVIDIA for half that multiple.
Contexto Rick Munarriz: "You can keep it in the family and buy the faster growing NVIDIA for half that multiple."
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[MUSIC] Anand Chokkavelu: Welcome to the latest Motley
Fool Scoreboard. I'm Anand Chokkavelu and
we've got long time Fools, Toby Bordelon and Rick Munarriz giving a 1-10 rating
to a money ball wreck. It's Advanced Micro Devices, maybe better known by
its ticker symbol AMD. First we'll rate the
strength of AMD's business, including factors like
industry and competition. Ten's invincible,
a one is hopeless. Toby's at an eight,
Rick, you're at a seven. Rick Munarriz: A generation ago, Advanced Micro Devices with a spunky upstart taken on Intel in the
microprocessor market. These days, AMD may as well stand for
another market driver. These days, it's an AI
play with its server CPUs fueling data centers and its DPU shipments tackling
AI infrastructure. It's still a player
in the gaming market, which was also part of
its original roots, but that business has
declined to just 7% of AMD's revenue in its latest
quarter. I went with a seven. Toby Bordelon: A,
for me here. This is a high quality business and one that has improved over
the past decade or so. I think it's grown into a much more diversified
computing business here, selling a wide range of chips, including semi custom chips, the data center focused chips that Rick
was talking about. Those are all the
rage right now, and that's really
driving their growth. Competition is still tough here. NVIDIA, the clear number 1. I don't think we can
argue otherwise, but AMD is still a major
player in this space. Anand Chokkavelu: AMD's
come such a long way in the years we've seen it
where it was also ran at Intel and just a prayer at
one point but now it's legit. Let's see how you rate the
rest of AMD's business. Let's talk management.
A 10 is Warren Buffett, a one is Homer Simpson. Both of you have nines
this time, Rick. Rick Munarriz: A lot
has happened since Lisa Su became CEO in 2014, when the stock was trading
for about $3 a share. Obviously, it's about 160
bagger now for starters. It runs in the family. Her first cousin, once removed, is NVIDIA's Jensen Huang. Su became the first woman
to be named Time Magazine, CEO of the year of 2014. Time Magazine apparently has
a CEO of the Year category, and she tapped that again, in 2024 after completing the wealth altering
transformation at AMD, she has 95% approval rating, according to Glassdoor
or how 19 out of every 20 employees
would say, so sue me. Toby Bordelon: Ninety-five
percent approval rating is something else. I
got to agree there. A nine for me too,
great management. Lisa Su is arguably one of the best out there
right now, I think. She became CEO just two
years after she joined AMD. She joined in 2012. I believe it was COO, they made her CEO
two years later, led the company since then. They've made a series of
smart acquisitions under her tenure to broaden the
portfolio to enter new markets. That's worked really well
for the business too. Su has definitely earned the benefit of the
doubt from me, and I think from anyone who's
looking at this company, AMD is the better for having
her at the helm, for sure. Anand Chokkavelu: I had to
look it up. Jensen Huang, 98% approval rating, but
both ridiculously high. For financials, a
10 is a fortress, a one is yikes. Toby's at an eight,
Rick, you're at a seven. Rick Munarriz: Revenue
is growing faster than it has since
the spring of 2022. Its guidance calls
for the top line to accelerate again to 45% growth
in the current quarter. Momentum should continue as its strongest growing business becomes a larger
overall contributor. Net margin is widening for
the third year in a row. There's a case to be
made that this isn't the same cyclical business
as it was in the past, given the long tail
of the AI boom. I agree somewhat, but if Wile E Coyote finds himself
over the cliff in this rally, there's a lot of
air to ponder when it all went wrong
on the way down. It's why I can't go higher
than a seven for this. Otherwise, stellar
turnaround beep, beep. Toby Bordelon: I'm a
little bit higher, Rick, a little bit. Went
with an eight here. The financial situation
does look solid, 38% of revenue growth
in Q1 of this year. Much of that from the
data center business. That grew 57% year over year. That is clearly driving
the growth right now. Over half of the revenue for the quarter was from the
data center business. Broadens are looking good, too, as you know, very
healthy balance sheet. I love that; 5.6
billion in cash, 6.8 billion in short
term investments, just 3.2 billion in debt. They have a lot of room
to take advantage of opportunities that are in front of them should
they choose to do so. Also, nearly three billion in operating cash flow, just
in the first quarter. That's fantastic. You really like the financial
position of this business. Anand Chokkavelu: Toby,
let's move on to valuation. How well will AMD's stock do
over the next five years? How safe is it?
Ten's a sure thing, one's a lottery ticket. Toby Bordelon: I'm going
to go 5-10% on returns. I want to say the
high end of that, but I don't think the
growth numbers we've been seeing recently are
sustainable forever. The company will do
well, I'm sure it, but the massive growth
industry it is right now, I don't think continues
for five years or so. Eventually, things are going
to start leveling off. On safety seven, I think the biggest risk
here is valuation. There is no real risk, I can
see to the business itself. Even if you get a
data center slowdown, you'll see a stock
pullback for sure, but the business is still
going to do what they do. That's the reason for my
slightly low score on safety. Rick Munarriz: I'm
kidding by looking over Toby's shoulder and copying his answers exactly this time
but it's how I feel, too. I think it may be closer
to the 5% than the 10%. The stock has more
than quadrupled over the past year at the time
that we're recording this, and that's going to make a valuation argument
harder to make. The stock is moving higher faster than estimate revisions. AMD is now trading
for roughly 40 times next year's analyst
profit target. You can keep it in
the family and buy the faster growing NVIDIA
for half that multiple. Anand Chokkavelu: Well, thank you to both
Toby and to Rick. They've given AMD a solid
overall score of 7.2/10. For top hits, Rick mentioned it. He prefers NVIDIA. Look out for a new
scoreboard every market day at 7:00 PM Eastern. Next up is CloudFlare, till then Fool on. [MUSIC]
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