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I AM LOOKING FOR A CORRECTION IN SEMIS, BUT I WOULD BE A BUYER ON THAT CORRECTION.
Contexto MARY ANN: "FROM A LEADERSHIP STANDPOINT, THEY ARE STILL THE LEADERS. IF I HAD TO BUY TODAY, I THINK YOU ARE GETTING BETTER VALUE IN THE MAG SEVEN. I AM LOOKING FOR A CORRECTION IN SEMIS, BUT I WOULD BE A BUYER ON THAT CORRECTION."
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>> THIS IS "BLOOMBERG
BUSINESSWEEK DAILY," REPORTING FROM THE MAGAZINE
THAT HELPS GLOBAL LEADERS STAY HAD WITH INSIGHT ON THE PEOPLE,
COMPANIES AND TRENDS SHAPING TODAY'S COMPLEX ECONOMY.
GLOBAL BUSINESS, FINANCE AMTECH NEWS AS IT HAPPENS.
"BLOOMBERG BUSINESSWEEK DAILY" WITH CAROL MASSAR AND TIM
STENOVEC LIVE ON BLOOMBERG RADIO, TELEVISION AND BLOOMBERG
ORIGINALS. CAROL: GOOD AFTERNOON. IT IS A FED WEDNESDAY FOR A
COUPLE REASONS. IT IS JULY 15, 2026.
CAROL MASSAR WITH TIM STENOVEC. TIM: IS IT HARD ENOUGH FOR YOU?
CAROL: [LAUGHTER] I HAVE NOT BEEN OUTSIDE SINCE I
WALKED IN THIS MORNING. IT IS ON OUR MIND AND IS THE
AIR QUALITY. IN TERMS OF IT BEING A FED
WEDNESDAY, KEVIN WARSH ON A CAPITOL HILL FOR A SECOND DAY.
WE ARE ALSO AWAITING THE RELEASE OF THE FED'S BEIGE BOOK.
I AM THAT YOU ARE GLUED TO THE FED'S WEBSITE. TIM:
AND THE TERMINAL. IT COMES LITTLE AFTER 2:00.
WE WILL BRING YOU THAT AS SOON AS WE GET IT.
MIKE MCKEE WILL BE JOINING US. HE IS IN IDAHO.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO HIM. CAROL:
SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM HIM ON INFLATION.
WE GOT THE PPI THIS MORNING. A CHIEF INVESTMENT STRATEGIST
WILL TALK ABOUT WHY TECH REMAINS THE SECULAR BULL MARKET
SECTOR. SHE WILL TALK EARNINGS BACKDROP.
SHE LIKES SEMI CONDUCTORS. TIM: OPENAI, FRESH OFF A LAWSUIT
ACCUSING IT OF STEALING TRADE SECRETS.
MARK WILL BE STOPPING BY. CAROL: TALK ABOUT TIMING. TIM:
A BLOOMBERG EXCLUSIVE. CAROL: WE WILL GET A READ ON THE
CONSUMER, THE BAR AND PUB SPACE AND THE WORLD CUP WAS SOMEONE
WHO HAS BEEN IN THE FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY.
WE WILL TALK WITH THE PRESIDENT OF SILVERCHEF U.S., JON JACOBS.
TIM: I HAVE SOME BEIGE BOOK HEADLINES.
ECONOMIC ACTIVITY INCREASING AT A SLIGHT TO MODERATE PACE.
ONE DISTRICT REPORTED NO CHANGE. THE PACE OF GROWTH WAS CLOSE TO
THAT OF LAST PERIOD. IT WAS FLAT IN ONE AND DOWN IN
ONE. HIGHER PRICES FOR A FEW DAMPEN
SALES IN OTHER CATEGORIES SO PEOPLE SPENDING MORE ON GAS AND
LESS ON OTHER THINGS. SEVERAL DISTRICTS NOTED
DECLINES. TOURISM WAS UP WITH SOME
DISTRICTS RECEIVING BOOSTS FROM WORLD CUP VISITORS.
AUTO DEALERS REPORTED LITTLE CHANGE IN SALES. CAROL: IT IS ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, A
SNAPSHOT OF ECONOMIC CONDITIONS ACROSS THE 12 FED DISTRICTS.
WE WILL DIG INTO WHAT TIM JUST READ WITH MIKE MCKEE.
WE WANT TO GET YOU CAUGHT UP ON THE MARKET ON THIS WEDNESDAY.
WE HAVE SEEN STOCKS BOUNCE OFF OF THEIR LOWS.
STILL DOWN ON THE NASDAQ 100. CHARLIE:
HERE IS WHAT IS GOING ON. A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO THE
MARKET. I HAVE YOU COVERED WITH THE S&P
UP 26. A GAIN OF JUST ABOUT .3%. THE INDUSTRIALS UP 164 POINTS. NASDAQ HIGHER BY 156 POINTS,
.6%. TECH STOCKS, THE NASDAQ 100 TUMBLING BY .3%.
ALL OF THIS WITH ANOTHER ROUND FOR SEMIS.
THE SEMICONDUCTOR INDEX IS DOWN 2.4%.
10 YEAR WITH KEVIN WARSH ON CAPITOL HILL, 4.54%.
GOLD UP $13 THE OUNCE. UP .3%.
WEST TEXAS INTERMEDIATE CRUDE DOWN .6%.
$78.90 A BARREL FOR WTI. WE HEARD FROM MORGAN STANLEY
THIS MORNING. STOCK TRADESRS SET ANOTHER
QUARTERLY RECORD. A 69 PERCENT JUMP FROM ITS
PREVIOUS ALL-TIME HIGH. MORGAN STANLEY SHARES UP 20%.
GOLDMAN SACHS UP .2%. OTHER HEADLINES.
ANTHROPIC PLANNING AND IPO INVESTOR MEETING AS IS MEGA
LISTING YEARS. SPACEX TRADING AROUND ITS IPO
PRICE. FOR MUCH OF THE DATE WAS TRADING BELOW THE $135 LEVEL.
SOURCES TELL THE YANKEES ARE IN ADVANCED TALKS TO RAISE $3
BILLION OF FINANCING FOR APOLLO GLOBAL MANAGEMENT.
IN THE NORTHEAST, IT IS HOT AND THE AIR IS BAD.
EXTREME HEAT TESTING POWER GRIDS AS AIR QUALITY DROPS FROM
WILDFIRE SMOKE DRIFTING IN FROM CANADA.
NEW YORK CITY'S AIR QUALITY INDEX HAS A RATING OF UNHEALTHY
FOR EVERYONE. S&P UP .4%. THAT IS A BLOOMBERG BUSINESS/.
CAROL: APPRECIATE THAT. CHARLIE PELLETT.
WE WANT TO GET BACK TO WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THE BEIGE BOOK.
TIM READING SOME HIGHLIGHTS. IT IS AN ANECDOTAL READ FROM
REGIONAL BANKS. PART OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE.
ON LABOR MARKETS, PRICES, ECONOMIC ACTIVITY. TIM: PRICES INCREASE MARTYRED FAIRLY
-- PRICES INCREASED MODERATELY. ON THE LABOR MARKET, EMPLOYMENT
ROSE. SEVEN DISTRICTS EXPERIENCED
LITTLE TO NO CHANGE. THE OVERALL ECONOMIC ACTIVITY
IS ONE I'M FOCUSED ON. IT DOES SAY ECONOMIC ACTIVITY
INCREASED AT A SLIGHT TO MODERATE PACE IN 11 OF 12
DISTRICTS IN LATE MAY AND JUNE. CAROL: LET'S GET TO IT.
THIS IS COMING ON A DAY WHERE FED CHAIR KEVIN WARSH IS ON
CAPITOL HILL BEFORE THE SENATE BANKING COMMITTEE.
A BROAD-BASED COOLING IN SOME KEY CATEGORIES THAT WERE
BOOSTED IN RECENT MONTHS BY THE FALLOUT FROM THE WAR.
IN TERMS OF KEVIN WARSH, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU WILL HIGHLIGHT.
HE WAS PRESSED BY DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CHRIS VAN HOLLEN.
CHAIR WARSH SAID BEFORE I RAISED MY RIGHT HAND HE HAS NOT
TRY TO INFLUENCE THE CONDUCT OF MONETARY POLICY. >> HAVE YOU OR HAVE YOU NOT HAD
PR -- COMMUNICATIONS WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.
I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THE >>. THEY CHOSE AN INDEPENDENT GUIDE
TO DO AN INDEPENDENT JOB AND THAT IS WHAT I PLAN ON DOING.
OVER THE LAST SEVEN WEEKS, GIVEN THE DECISIONS WE HAVE
MADE, IT IS NOT JUST WORDS, IT IS ACTIONS. CAROL: THAT' IS FED CHAIR KEVIN WARSH.
BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO CORRESPONDENT MICHAEL MCKEE IS
AT THE 13TH ANNUAL ROCKY MOUNTAINS SUMMIT.
HE IS IN VICTOR, IDAHO. SHOULD WE START WITH BEIGE BOOK?
ANYTHING HELPFUL? MIKE: NOTHING REALLY HELPFUL. THE AIR HERE IS A LOT BETTER
THAN IN NEW YORK CITY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
THE BEIGE BOOK TELLS YOU ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WERE THINKING
BEFORE JULY 6. THAT IS THE CLOSING DATE FOR
THIS BEIGE BOOK, PREPARED BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF
CHICAGO. WHAT IS INTERESTING TO ME IS IN
THE SECTION ON PRICES, THEY TALK ABOUT BUSINESS THIS THING
PRICES ARE STILL GOING UP IN THOSE AREAS.
THAT WAS ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AFTER, IN THEORY, THE
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING STARTED PUSHING OIL PRICES DOWN.
THERE IS A LAG. THE INFLATION WARNING IN THE
BEIGE BOOK COULD BE A LITTLE OUT OF DATE.
I WOULD SAY IT IS OUT OF DATE OTHER THAN THE FACT WE ARE
SEEING PRICES RISE AGAIN FOR ENERGY. CAROL:
REMIND US WHEN THIS DATA SET WAS TAKEN. MIKE:
THEY BASICALLY COLLECT DATA BETWEEN THE TWO FED MEETINGS.
THE LAST FED MEETING IN JUNE WAS ON THE 17TH.
BETWEEN THE 17TH AND JULY 6 WAS WHEN THE DATA WERE COLLECTED.
THE BANK GOT INFORMATION FROM OTHER BANKS AROUND THE NATION. AS TIM WAS POINTING OUT, A WIDE
VARIETY OF THEM WERE SEEING INCREASES IN PRICES. THE LAG EFFECT OF THE WAR IS
DEFINITELY ON VIEW IN THIS REPORT. TIM:
CONSUMER SPENDING RELATED TO OIL PRICES.
CONSUMER SPENDING HAS HIGHER PRICES FOR FUEL DAMPENING SALES
AND OTHER CATEGORIES. SEVERAL DISTRICTS HAD DECLINES
IN SPENDING ON DISCRETIONARY ITEMS. IS THAT MORE OF THE SAME?
IS THERE ANYTHING NEW IN THAT WITH REGARD TO DISCRETIONARY
SPENDING? MIKE: ESSENTIALLY IT IS THE SAME
THING WE ARE HEARING FROM ALL THE RETAILERS.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPECTING TO HEAR.
PEOPLE TRADE DOWN, MORE MONEY GOES INTO GASOLINE AND LESS
MONEY GOES INTO OTHER DISCRETIONARY PURPOSES.
TOMORROW WE GET THE RETAIL SALES REPORT FOR JUNE. WE WILL SEE IF THAT PLAYS OUT.
I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE A BIG INCREASE IN GASOLINE STATION
SALES. THE LAG EFFECTS OF THE PRICE
LYNN INCREASES WERE STILL IN GAS PRICES.
YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE SOME OF THAT TOMORROW.
THE QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD?
JULY AND AUGUST RETAIL REPORTS WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT TO THE
FED. THAT IS BACK-TO-SCHOOL SEASON.
WE WILL SEE IF PEOPLE ARE REALLY CUTTING BACK OR THEY
FEEL LIKE THEY CAN KEEP SPENDING. CAROL:
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT YOUR ECONOMIC AND FED TYPES BUT
WHEN YOU DO A SUMMIT YOU ARE IN COOL PLACES. [LAUGHTER] TIM:
PORTUGAL, IDAHO, JACKSON HOLE. CAROL: WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON?
MIKE: WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON IS BUSINESS PEOPLE AND ECONOMISTS
ARE COMING TOGETHER. THERE IS NO FISHING GOING ON,
NO HORSEBACK RIDING. IT IS ALL TALK ABOUT THE
ECONOMY. I WAS SITTING WITH PAUL, THE
FORMER PIMCO ECONOMIST AT BREAKFAST AND WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT KEVIN WARSH. CAROL: WHAT DID HE SAY? REAL QUICKLY.
MIKE: THE FEELING IS WARSH HAS TO
EARN HIS CREDIBILITY. HE DID SAY HE THOUGHT THE
ECONOMY COULD USE LOWER RATES WHEN HE WAS TRYING TO GET THE
JOB. HE IS BUILDING THE CREDIBILITY
WITH THE MARKETS. HE SAID THE MARKETS ARE UPSET
WITH HIM. I DO NOT THINK THAT IS THE CASE.
I THINK THE MARKETS LIKE WHAT THEY HEAR.
HE GAVE THEM A LITTLE BIT TODAY OF THE REACTION FUNCTION,
SAYING THE FED WANTS TO SEE GROWTH BROADEN AND INFLATION
NARROW. HE DID NOT MENTION ANY CATEGORIES.
YOU CAN IMAGINE THE THINGS THEY ARE LOOKING AT. CAROL:
GOOD STUFF. LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR
REPORTING. TIM: DO YOU JUST DID THERE FOR THE
NEXT MONTH UNTIL JACKSON HOLE? MIKE: I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT.
IF YOU COULD STOP BY MY DESK AND FORWARD MY PHONE, THAT
WOULD BE GREAT. TIM: [LAUGHTER] DONE. CAROL: MICHAEL MCKEE IS AT THE 13TH
ANNUAL ROCKY MOUNTAINS SUMMIT IN IDAHO. TIM:
I CANNOT SEE ALL THOSE FED OFFICIALS IN VEGAS. CAROL: NO.
[LAUGHTER] THEY ARE NEVER THERE. OR THOSE BIG CONVENTION CENTERS.
IT DOES NOT COME OUT THAT WAY. THAT IS OUR ECONOMIC BACKDROP.
OUR MARKET WATCHERS ARE IN THE YET THE ECONOMY AND WHAT WE ARE
GETTING IN TERMS OF FED POLICY AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR
EVALUATION. TIM: MARY ON BARTEL. 64 BILLION DOLLARS IN ASSETS ON
HIS PLATFORM. TECH COMPLIANCE, RESEARCH
SERVICES TO ITS PARTNER FIRMS ACROSS MORE THAN 30 STATES.
SHE JOINS US FROM NEW YORK. I WANT TO START WITH WHAT WE
WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH MIKE AND THE MACRO ECONOMIC BACKDROP.
WHAT WE GOT FROM THE BEIGE BOOK AND WHAT WE HEARD FROM KEVIN
WARSH. WHAT DO YOU THINK SHOULD MATTER
TO INVESTORS THE MOST RIGHT NOW> >> I THINK WHAT MATTERS
THE MOST IS HOW OUR SECOND QUARTER EARNINGS GOING TO COME
IN? I DO LIKE WHAT SHARE WARSH HAS
DONE IS SET CONFIDENCE IN THE MARKETS THAT THEY WILL TACKLE
INFLATION. THE INFLATION GAUGES OF CPI AND
PPI CAME IN REMARKABLY BELOW EXPECTATIONS. I THINK SETTING A POSITIVE TONE
ON INFLATION, INFLATION GAUGES EASING UP, WE CAN FOCUS ON
EARNINGS. FIRST QUARTER EARNINGS CAME IN
UP 30% YEAR-OVER-YEAR. IT IS POSSIBLE WE HAVE ANOTHER
QUARTER WHERE WE GET CLOSE TO 30% GROWTH.
A LOT OF THAT BEING DRIVEN BY THE TECH SECTOR.
HAVING A STRONG BACKDROP FOR THE ECONOMY, THE CONSUMERS
DOING WELL, SPENDING IS GOING UP IN ALL PHASES WERE ALL AREAS
OF THE CONSUMER. HIGH, LOW AND MIDDLE ARE ALL
RISING WITH A BIG UPTICK IN THE LOW-END CONSUMER.
THIS REALLY FEELS LIKE WE ARE STILL SITTING IN GOLDILOCKS
LAND. CAROL: YOU WERE ON A LITTLE LESS THAN
A MONTH AGO. S&P 500 IS UP 2.5% SINCE THEN.
BLOOMBERG MAG 7 IS UP 9%. NASDAQ 100 IS KIND OF FLAT.
OUTPERFORMING MAJOR GROUPS IN THE S&P 500 WERE COMMUNICATION
STARTS, FINANCIALS, CONSUMER DISCRETIONARY AND ENERGY.
WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE WE TALKED IN LATE JUNE IN TERMS OF
MARKET LEADERS AND FUNDAMENTALS? HAVE THE EARNINGS ESTIMATES
BEEN RISING FOR A LOT OF GROUPS OR JUST TECHNOLOGY? MARY ANN:
THERE ARE BIG UPGRADES HAPPENING WITHIN TECHNOLOGY.
ENERGY IS THE SECTOR THAT IS SUPPOSED TO PRODUCE THE BEST IN
THE QUARTER. I'M NOT HEARING A LOT OF PEOPLE
TALK ABOUT THAT. A LOT OF STRATEGISTS LOWER
THEIR OIL PRICES WHEN WE THOUGHT THERE WAS A GOOD
CEASE-FIRE. WE HAVE SEEN OIL PRICES FIRM.
I WILL BE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE ENERGY
SECTOR. WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE
MARKET OVERALL IS WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF SECTOR
ROTATION. SO WE DID GET A CORRECTION IN
THE MAG SEVEN. THEY LOOK LIKE THEY BOTTOMED
AND ARE RALLYING. SEMICONDUCTORS HAVE BEEN STRONG
LEADERS, BUT I THINK THEY ARE AT RISK OF CORRECTING.
WHEN THEY CORRECT, THEY CAN CORRECT PRETTY SHARPLY.
SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF 30% TO 50%.
ONE WE SAW THEM CORRECT IN THE MID-1990'S, THAT WAS THE RANGE
THEY CORRECTED AND RESUMED THEIR UPTREND.
I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF HEALTH CARE. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME
DEFENSIVE MONEY MOVING THERE. I LIKE BIOTECH.
DON'T LIKE THE CONSUMER STAPLES AT ALL.
I DON'T FEEL THEY HAVE GOOD PRICING IN THERE.
WHEN WE LOOK AT COMMUNICATION SERVICES, I LIKE THAT AREA
BECAUSE I AM A BIG FAN OF ALPHABET.
META MAY HAVE BOTTOMED, BUT YOU DO HAVE PART OF THE MAG SEVEN
IN COMM SERVICES. TIM: DID YOU GET ANYTHING FROM KEVIN
WARSH'S TESTIMONY TODAY WITH REGARD TO AI OR THE MAG SEVEN
THAT IS OF INTEREST TO YOU? WHAT'S TO COME TO ME IS IN THE
NEAR TERM HE SAID INVESTMENT IS GOOD FOR JOBS -- WHAT STOOD OUT
TO BE IS HE SAID IN THE NEAR TERM AI INVESTMENT IS GOOD FOR
JOBS. HE HAD SOME INTERESTING COMMENTARY ABOUT THE WAY
COLLEGE GRADUATES HAVE THE TOOLS HE THINKS TO SUCCEED IN A
WORLD WITH AI. SINCE YOU FOLLOW TECH CLOSELY,
I AM CURIOUS WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT HE SAID. MARY ANN: THE THINGS YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT
JOBS AT AI, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF FEAR THAT WE ARE GOING
TO LOSE JOBS, AND WE HAVE EVEN WRITTEN THE SURPRISE IS
PROBABLY WE WILL CREATE JOBS. WHEN WE HAVE LOOKED AT MAJOR
TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS IN OUR ECONOMY, THEY HAVE NOT
TAKEN AWAY JOBS. THEY HAVE ALWAYS CREATED FEAR
IT WOULD TAKE AWAY JOBS, BUT IN FACT THEY ACTUALLY CREATE JOBS,
AND THEY PROBABLY ARE GOING TO CREATE SOME JOBS THAT HAVE
NEVER EXISTED BEFORE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE ARE STILL
KIND OF LEARNING. SO I THINK AI IS GOING TO BE
TRANSFORMATIVE. WE JUST PUT OUT OUR MIDYEAR
REPORT. BUT AS I WAS WRITING ON TECHNOLOGY, THERE WAS SO MUCH
TO TALK ABOUT. I ACTUALLY WROTE A SEPARATE
REPORT JUST ON TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE IT IS THE MAJOR DRIVER. IT IS THE BIGGEST LEAP IN
TECHNOLOGY WE THINK SINCE THE 1700S WHEN WE CREATED THE STEAM
ENGINE. I KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF TALK
RELATIVE TO THE RAILROADS, AND THERE IS GOOD COMPARISON IN
TERMS OF THE CAPITAL INTENSITY THAT IS NEEDED FOR THE BUILDOUT
IN AI. CAROL: JUST GOT 25 SECONDS. SEMICONDUCTORS AND THE BIG MAG
SEVEN, JUST QUICKLY, ALL OF THAT YOU LIKE OR YOU THINK IS
OPPORTUNITY? MARY ANN: FROM A LEADERSHIP STANDPOINT,
THEY ARE STILL THE LEADERS. IF I HAD TO BUY TODAY, I THINK
YOU ARE GETTING BETTER VALUE IN THE MAG SEVEN.
I AM LOOKING FOR A CORRECTION IN SEMIS, BUT I WOULD BE A
BUYER ON THAT CORRECTION. CAROL: GREAT STUFF.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THEY HAVE $64 BILLION IN ASSETS
ON THEIR PLATFORM. JOINING US RIGHT HERE IN NEW
YORK CITY. COMING UP NEXT, OPENAI JUST OFF
A LAWSUIT FROM APPLE ACCUSING IT OF STEALING TRADE SECRETS,
MOVING TO EXPRESS DEVICE. TIM: MARK GURMAN HAS THE BLOOMBERG
EXCLUSIVE AND WILL STOP BY IN A FEW MINUTES.
THAT IS NEXT ON "BLOOMBERG BUSINESSWEEK DAILY." ♪ CHARLIE:
WE DO CHECK MARKETS ALL DAY LONG HERE AT BLOOMBERG.
API WEDNESDAY, AND THIS MORNING WE HAVE A REPORT SHOWING SOFTER
THAN ANTICIPATED INFLATION DRIVING STOCKS AND BONDS HIGHER
FOR THE MOST PART. S&P UP 27.THAT IS AGAIN A 0.4%.
DOW INDUSTRIALS UP 133 POINTS, 0.3%. NASDAQ IS UP 0.7%, BUT A TOUGH
DAY FOR A LOT OF BIG TECH NAMES. THE NASDAQ 100 INDEX DOWN 0.2%.
INTERESTINGLY, SEEING SEMICONDUCTORS HIT HARD TODAY.
THE MAG SEVEN INDEX NOW ADVANCING BY 2.3%.
THE PHILADELPHIA STOCK EXCHANGE SEMICONDUCTOR INDEX DOWN NOW BY
2.3%. ALL OF THIS WITH THE VIX BELOW
16 AND THE 10 YEAR AT 4.54%. THE TWO YEAR 4.12%.
GOLD IS UP $18 THE OZ. SPOT GOLD AT 4071, 0.5%.
WEST TEXAS INTERMEDIATE CRUDE JUST ABOUT FLAT ON THE DAY,
BELOW $80 ON WTI. BRENT BELOW $85.
$84.72 A BARREL. THE PAYMENT PROCESSING FROM
STRIPED AND PRIVATE EQUITY FIRM ADVENT INTERNATIONAL HAVE
OFFERED TO BUY PAYPAL HOLDINGS FOR MORE THAN $50 BILLION.
PAYPAL SHARES ARE SURGING NOW BY 16.8%. BRIEFLY, AND TOPIC PLANS
INVESTOR IPO MEETINGS AS ITS MEGA LISTING NEARS.
SPACEX NOW TRADING SLIGHTLY ABOVE $135.
THAT WAS THE IPO PRICE. RIGHT NOW, AND IS AT $135.91 --
IT IS AT $135.91. THE YANKEES ARE IN TALKS FOR $3
BILLION IN FINANCING FROM APOLLO.
S&P 500 INDEX UP BY 0.4%. THAT IS YOUR BLOOMBERG BUSINESS
FLASH. CAROL: ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY.
WE WANT TO GET TO A BLOOMBERG EXCLUSIVE.
MARK GURMAN REPORTING OPENAI'S FIRST DEVICE WILL BE A
HUMANLIKE AI COMPANION OF SORTS IN THE FORM OF A MOBILE SCREEN
FREE SMART SPEAKER. TIM: AM I GETTING FLASHBACKS TO
ALEXA FIRST BEING ANNOUNCED BY AMAZON? CAROL: MAYBE. TIM:
I DON'T KNOW. LET'S ASK MARK GURMAN.
HE JOINS US IN THE STUDIO. TRUSTINGLY, YOU NOTED THIS IN
YOUR PIECE, SO NO SHARES TOOK A DIVE. MARK:
YEAH BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, ALL THEY DO IS SMART
SPEAKER'S AND SMART HOME STUFF AND IT IS ALL VERY COMMODITIZED.
THIS OPENAI DEVICE WILL BLOW IT OUT OF THE WATER FOR AI
PURPOSES. I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF IT CAME
ANYWHERE CLOSE TO SONOS SO THEY ARE DISTINCT PRODUCTS FROM THAT
STANDPOINT. BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, THIS IS LIKE
THE ORIGINAL ALEXA PITCH 12 YEARS AGO BROUGHT TO LIFE FOR
THE FIRST TIME. TIM: HOW IS IT BROUGHT TO LIFE, OR
HOW WILL IT BE BROUGHT TO LIFE ACCORDING TO YOUR REPORTING?
MARK: THEY SEE THE SMART SPEAKER AS A
NEW TYPE OF COMPUTER. THEY CALL IT AN AI COMPUTER THE
FIRST COMPUTER BUILT FOR THE AI ERA. RIDICULOUS BUT NO SCREEN
SPEAKER. YOU TALK TO IT AND THEY SEE IT
AS A COMPANY IN YOUR HOME SO IT CAN LISTEN, LEARN ABOUT YOU
OVER TIME AND HAVE BACK-AND-FORTH CONVERSATIONS
AND GETS TO KNOW YOU AND YOUR PERSONAL DATA BASED ON WHAT YOU
HOOKED UP TO CHATGPT AND BECOMES A BETTER COMPANION OVER
TIME AS IT LEARNS MORE ABOUT YOU BEGIN TO CHINA DURING LIVE
CONVERSATIONS LIKE ANOTHER HUMAN IN YOUR HOME. CAROL:
HAVE YOU PLAYED WITH IT? MARK: NO. I WISH. CAROL:
WHAT IS IT COMING? -- WHEN IS IT COMING? MARK:
WE ARE BREAKING NEWS ON THIS. THEY ARE NOT COMMENTING ON THIS.
WHEN IS IT COMING? THEY HOPED TO INTRODUCE IT THIS
YEAR AND WILL LET OUT NEXT YEAR BUT THE APPLE LAWSUIT IS A BIG
OVERHANG SO AT THIS POINT WHY ALL THIS IS THE PLAN, THEY ARE
GOING THROUGH FORENSIC SWEEPS AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE
TRADE SECRET SITUATION WITHIN OPENAI TO SEE IF THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT WILL GET DELAYED OR HAVE AN IMPACT ON ITS FIRST
PRODUCT LAUNCH. TIM: ARE HIS FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER
IT? MARK: HIS FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER
IT. IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE HISTORY
OF APPLE, THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO HELP PEOPLE
CONNECT TO TECHNOLOGY, MAKING TECHNOLOGY FEEL PERSONAL MORE
YOU LIVE -- MORE ALIVE AND EMOTIVE.
IT IS THE FIRST SMART SPEAKER FEELS LIKE IT IS DESIGNED BY
JOHNNY. APPLE HAS THE HOMEPOD, BUT THAT
THING IS HOT GARBAGE. IT IS NOT A GREAT PRODUCT.
THIS WILL BE DIFFERENT. CAROL: DOES EVERYBODY HAVE TO BE
WORRIED? MARK: I LIKE MARK -- TIM: I LIKE MARK.
HE IS SETTLE. CAROL: I KNOW. TELL US MORE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT CAN BLOW EVERYBODY AWAY. MARK:
I THINK APPLE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY GOT. CAROL:
GOOGLE? MARK: GOOGLE SHOULD BE WORRIED.
THE REAL SECRET SAUCE HERE IS THE AI MODELS.
AT SOME POINT, THESE WILL ALL GET COMMODITIZED AND EVERYONE
WILL BE IN THE SAME PLACE. TIM: CLAUDE WILL BE THE SAME AS
CHATGPT. MARK: CHATGPT IS WAY AHEAD OF
EVERYBODY ELSE RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THESE VOICE
INTERACTIONS. IF YOU TRIED CHATGPT LIVE, IT
IS EXCELLENT. YOU CAN HAVE BACK-AND-FORTH
CONVERSATIONS. IT CAN INTERRUPT YOU.
VERY ADVANCED TECH. OTHERS WILL CATCH UP WITH HIM
EVENTUALLY. SECRET SAUCE IS THE MODELS.
APPLE AND GOOGLE HAVE GREAT DESIGNERS.
OTHERS WILL BE ABLE TO CATCH UP IN THIS SPACE.
APPLE FOR ITS PART IS ABOUT TO ROLL OUT A BUNCH OF SMART HOME
APPLIANCES ALSO. CAROL: CAN WE TALK SIRI?
I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU ON SURVEILLANCE WITH TOM AND PAUL
SAYING YOU HAVE BEEN PLAYING WITH THE NEW AI STUFF ON APPLE.
MARK: THAT WAS NOT ME. NO, I'M JOKING. CAROL:
I KNOW I HAD MY COFFEE IN THE MORNING WHEN I HEARD IT. MARK:
SIRI AI IS VERY COMPETENT. CAROL:
I WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY COMPETENT.
TIM IS WAY ABOVE COMPETENT. MARK: TIM IS LIKE CHATGPT. TIM:
THANK YOU. MARK: SOMEONE WHO IS COMPETENT IS
LIKE SIRI AI. SOMEONE WHO SHOULD NOT BE HERE
IS LIKE THE OLD SIRI. CAROL: OK. MARK: THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE.
YOU ARE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR CHATGPT.
SIRI WILL TAKE EVERYTHING YOU THROW AT IT BUT NOT DOING AS
WELL AS TIM. TIM: ON WHAT BASIS OF HARDWARE? MARK:
I HAVE USED IT ON EVERYTHING. TIM:
WILL THAT WORK ON OLD PHONES WELL? MARK:
IT IS SUPPOSED TO WORK ON THE 15 PRO AND UP.
PROBABLY WORKS FINE ON THE 15 PRO. PROBABLY SOME OF THE NEW
FEATURES WITH THE BOYS, YOU CAN CHANGE THE VOICE
EXPRESSIVENESS, THOSE REQUIRE THE NEWER MODELS THAN THE RAM
YOU CAN GET. TIM: THE QUESTION I ASKED SIRI THE
OTHER DAY, WHAT IS THE NEXT FED MEETING -- WHEN IS THE NEXT FED
MEETING? SIRI SAID THERE IS NOTHING IN
YOUR CALENDAR LIKE THAT. CAROL: WAS IT IN YOUR CALENDAR? MARK:
WHEN IS THE NEXT FED MEETING? I GOT THE NEW SIRI.
THE NEXT FEDERAL RESERVE MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR JULY
28 TO 29, 2026. TIM: SO IT DOES NOT WORK ON MY OLD
IPHONE BUT IT WORKS ON THE NEW ONE. MARK: YOU EXPECT SI TO ENTERI -- SIRI
TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. IT WILL NOT DO EXTENSIVE TRAVEL
PLANNING OR CREATING THINGS AT THE DEGREE YOU CAN CREATE AND
GENERATE WITH CHATGPT, BUT I WILL SAY THE IMAGE GENERATOR ON
THE NEW SIRI IS PRETTY GOOD. TIM:
WHAT IS THE PLATFORM THEY ARE USING TO DO THAT? MARK:
THE MODELS ARE APPLE MODELS BUT THEY ARE OPEN HOOD AND YOU HAVE
GEMINI TECHNOLOGY, SAME AS THE NEW SIRI. CAROL:
OK, SO IS EVERYBODY GOING TO NOW LOOK AT OPENAI WHEN IT
COMES TO DEVICE INNOVATION? HAS MARK:
I DO NOT THINK APPLE HAS LOST ITS EDGE BUT I THINK CHATGPT
AND OPENAI HAVE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY OF COMBINING
TOP-TIER MODELS AND TOP-TIER ENGINEERING BUT THE BAR TO
REPLACE APPLE AND THE IPHONE ARE SKYHIGH.
DO NOT FORGET THE LAWSUIT. CAROL: GO. MARK:
YOU WOULD BE NUTS TO LEAVE APPLE FOR OPENAI AFTER READING
THE LAWSUIT. YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO THIS.
THEY DO NOT WANT TO LOSE MORE PEOPLE TO OPENAI. CAROL:
THE DEVICE AT OPENAI ARE STARTING TO ROLL OUT.
ARE THE AT RISK DEPENDING ON HOW THE LAWSUIT PLAYS OUT? MARK:
THERE CAN BE AN INJUNCTION OUT OF THIS.
THEY COULD BE HALTED BY THE COURTS. APPLE COULD GET THE ITC
INVOLVED. IF APPLE FINDS TRADE SECRETS OF
THERE'S IN THE PRODUCTS THEY WILL GO TO WAR AGAINST OPENAI.
TIM: WE ARE SPEAKING WITH THE
BLOOMBERG NEWS MANAGING EDITOR FOR GLOBAL CONSUMER TECH. CAROL:
TALK ABOUT THIS PICTURE. [LAUGHTER] MARK: THAT IS THEIR PRESS SHOT.
YOU ARE COMBINING THE BEST AI GUY --ARGUABLY. PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS
ON SAM ALTMAN. TIM: I STILL HAVE THE QUESTION, IF
THERE IS THIS A DEVICE PEOPLE WILL WANT?
12 YEARS AGO WE SAW THE FIRST VIDEO FOR ALEXA FROM AMAZON AND
PEOPLE SAID THIS IS NOT SOMETHING PEOPLE WILL ADOPT. AMAZON STUNNED EVERYBODY AND
EVERYBODY ADOPTED THE AMAZON ECHO DEVICES. MARK:
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2014, WHEN ALEXA WAS ANNOUNCED, AND
2027, PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF AI. TIM:
DO YOU WANT THIS IN YOUR HOME? MARK: .
12 YEARS AGO IT WAS SO NOVEL. PEOPLE ARE INTO PRIVACY NOW. PEOPLE SEE THE ADS THAT APPLE
HAVE AGAINST META. THE BAR IS A LITTLE HIGHER. TIM:
THE ALWAYS LISTENING AI DEVICE. MARK:
IT IS NOT ALWAYS LISTENING BUT IT WILL HAVE SENSORS AND
CAMERAS TO GET CONTEXT THROUGHOUT THE DAY. CAROL:
WE HAVE GOOGLE HOME. THERE ARE THINGS I LOVE ASKING
IT. THERE ARE TIMES I DO NOT LOVE
THEM TALKING CONSTANTLY. I WANT TO GO TO APPLE FOR A
MOMENT. ABOUT APPLE PRODUCTS COMING OUR
WAY. [LAUGHTER] MARK: THERE IS A LOT.
I WILL HAVE TO TAKE MY WALLET AND PUT IT IN THE DOOR, LOCK IT
AND THROW THE KEY OUT. [LAUGHTER]
THERE IS A TON OF STUFF COMING. THIS WILL BE THE MOST PROLIFIC
PERIOD OF NEW PRODUCTS IN APPLE HISTORY. TIM:
STARTING IN SEPTEMBER? WHAT WILL BE GET? MARK:
WHAT CAN I TALK ABOUT? THE NEW IPHONES.
THE IPHONE ULTRA. I AM SO EXCITED.
I HAVE WANTED A FOLDABLE PHONE FOR SO LONG.
IT WILL BE EXPENSIVE BUT I CANNOT WAIT.
JUST GETTING THAT SCREEN REAL ESTATE TO POP THAT THING OPEN
AND MULTITASK, I LOVE BEING PRODUCTIVE AS A TECH NERD.
CAROL: [LAUGHTER] MARK: NEXT YEAR, THE FOLDABLE 2. THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY IPHONE.
THEY HAVE LOOKED AT SMART GLASSES AND HOW THEY INTEGRATE
HEALTH INTO THE SMART GLASSES. I'M NOT SURE THERE WILL BE
THERE ENGINE 1. TIM: IS THERE ANY HEALTH IN AIRPODSS
RIGHT NO? MARK: THE HEART RATE. THERE IS ALSO THE HEARING AID.
HAVING THE HEART RATE ON THE AIRPODS IS WORTHLESS IF YOU ARE
WEARING AN APPLE WATCH. WHAT IS REALLY GOOD FOR IS
PEOPLE WHO WORK OUT. IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO WEAR.
CAROL: IS THIS A BIG DEAL? MARK: CHINA IS A HYPERMARKET.
APPLE HAS BEEN LEAVING USERS BEHIND. IF IT IS THE FIRST GEN, IT IS
WORTHLESS BECAUSE THOSE FEATURES DO NOT WORK. THE MEAT AND POTATOES WILL BE
THE NEW APPLE INTELLIGENCE. TIM: OUR DAILY DOSE OF MARK.
WE LOVE HAVING YOU HERE. CAROL: IT IS SO MUCH FUN. MARK:
THANK YOU. TIM: ESPECIALLY WHEN THE WEATHER IS
LIKE THIS. MARK: IT WAS A WARNING.
DON'T GO OUTSIDE. WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
IS THERE SOMETHING GOING ON? TIM: WILDFIRES. CAROL:
MAYBE AI CAN FIX THAT. CHARLIE:
IT IS 2:40 ON WALL STREET. STOCKS CONTINUE TO PUSH HIGHER.
INFLATION DATA FROM THIS MORNING.
THE REPORT IS OUTWEIGHING. HAVE TO BEGIN WITH WHAT IS
GOING ON WITH SEMI CONDUCTORS. PHILADELPHIA STOCK EXCHANGE
SEMI CONDUCTOR INDEX IS DOWN 2.6%.
THE NASDAQ 100 INDEX IS DOWN .3%.
X SEMI CONDUCTORS, S&P UP 26. . DOW INDUSTRIALS UP WITH 3%. NASDAQ HIGHER BY .6%.
THE MAG 7 INDEX RALLYING BY 2.3%. THE 10 YEAR ON A PPI WEDNESDAY,
3.54%. GOLD OF $17 THE OUNCE. CRUDE NOW AT $79.80 A BARREL.
A BARREL OF BRENT AT $85.18. APPLE SHARES ARE RALLYING BY
4.1%. APPLE HAS RECEIVED CHINESE GOVERNMENT APPROVAL TO ROLL OUT
APPLE INTELLIGENCE IN CHINA. SPACEX AROUND ITS IPO PRICE,
$135.37. RIGHT NOW SPACEX DOWN .5%.
ANTHROPIC IS PLANNING IPO INVESTOR MEETINGS AS ITS MEGA
LISTING YEARS. THE YANKEES IN TALKS FOR $3
BILLION IN FINANCING FROM APOLLO. S&P UP .4%.
THAT IS A BLOOMBERG BUSINESS FLASH. CAROL: CAROL MASSAR ALONG WITH TIM
STENOVEC AT BLOOMBERG HEADQUARTERS IN NEW YORK CITY.
IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE THE WORLD CUP WRAPS UP THIS WEEKEND. TIM:
EVERYBODY SHOULD BE WATCHING OUR PROGRAM IN 18 MINUTES BUT I
THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL WATCH THAT SEMIFINALS. CAROL:
[LAUGHTER] OUR PRODUCER SEBASTIAN IS FROM
COLOMBIA. HE COMES IN WITH SOME GREAT
FACTOID. TIM: HE WILL BE WORKING TODAY, NOT
WASHING THE WORLD CUP. CAROL: HE IS A MULTITASKER. TIM: SOME DISTRICTS REPORTED
INCREASE IN TOURISM. CAROL: IN EARLY JUNE WE REPORTED
STRONG HIRING IN LEISURE AND HOSPITALITY LED TO A SURGE IN
HIRING IN THE U.S. AND CANADA. THAT WAS A LEADING UP TO THE
WORLD CUP. THEY TALKED ABOUT BOOSTED BY
HIRING AT RESTAURANTS, THE U.S. HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY ADDED THE
MOST JOBS IN MORE THAN THREE YEARS IN MAY.
CANADA SIGNED A JUMP IN EMPLOYMENT DRIVEN IN PART BY
STRONG HIRING IN THE SECTOR. THE POINT IS MANY EXPERTS AND
WASHERS SAID GAINS WILL BE FLEETING.
IT IS BECAUSE OF THE WORLD CUP. TIM: THE PRESIDENT OF U.S.
OPERATIONS AT SILVERCHEF, JON JACOBS.
ABOUT 100 THOUSAND CUSTOMERS GLOBALLY, FOUNDED IN 1986.
THEY PROVIDE FINANCING FOR THINGS LIKE STOVES, FANS AND
REFRIGERATORS. TELL US WHAT YOU ARE SEEING
WITH YOUR BUSINESS. WHAT YOU DO FOR RESTAURANTS AND
BARS, PUBS AND HOW THAT HAS CHANGED IN ANTICIPATION OF AND
DURING THE WORLD CUP. JON: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
THE CHANGE HAS BEEN DRAMATIC. AS WE START TO LOOK AT THE
GROWTH IN THE PICKUP OF THE HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY AS A
WHOLE, INDEPENDENT RESTAURANT OWNERS HAVE HAD AN OPTION --
THEY NEEDED TO UPSKILL IN STAFFING, MARKETING AND
EVERYTHING ELSE AND IT ALL COSTS. THE ABILITY TO DO THIS IN
ADVANCE -- HOSPITALITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF THE LEADING
INDUSTRIES. LEADING INDUSTRIES, AND TO
HAVE THE WORLD CUP AS AN EVENT THAT HELPS JUMPSTART THE
ECONOMY THIS SUMMER HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.
SO IT HAS BEEN ABLE TO HELP US AS WE GO FORWARD IN THE
INDUSTRY BECAUSE OUR FIXABLE FINANCING HAS PROVIDED THE
OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE WITH THE RESTAURANT MARKET.
WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? THIS IS NOT JUST A ONE-TIME
EVENT. A RESTAURANT OWNER NEEDS TO
LOOK AT PRESERVING CASH OR TO SPEND IN ADVANCE OF THE EVENT,
WE ARE HERE TO HELP BUT ALSO HERE TO HELP AND PROVIDE THE
FLEXIBLE OPPORTUNITY, MEANING TODAY YOU NEEDED AN ICE CREAM
MACHINE, TOMORROW IS THE WORLD CHANGES, AS WE GET PAST THIS
WORLD CUP EVENT, AS WE GET INTO MAYBE EVEN THE 2028 OLYMPICS,
YOU CAN CHANGE WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEIR NEEDS
AND THEIR ASK. CAROL: WHEN THESE GUYS -- I THINK YOU
MAKE A GOOD POINT. WE HAVE HAD JOHN ON TONS OF
TIMES TO TALK ABOUT BARS. BARS, RESTAURANTS.
IT IS A REALLY TOUGH BUSINESS. SLIM MARGINS CERTAINLY WHEN IT
COMES TO RESTAURANTS, AND THERE IS THE FAILURE RATE.
WE ALL KNOW THE STORIES THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT BY THAT.
FOR THESE FOLKS YOU WORK WITH, YOU ARE PROVIDING THEM A
FINANCIAL LIFELINE TO MEET THEIR NEEDS AND DEMANDS AND
BUILD OUT THEIR BUSINESS. WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING, IS THAT
OFTEN THEY ARE VENTING OR WHAT PERCENTAGE ACTUALLY RENT TO OWN
ULTIMATELY, OR IS IT JUST HAVE YOU RENTED FOR AN UPTICK IN
DEMAND FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE WORLD CUP? JON:
THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION. IT IS A 12 MONTH WEEKLY
PAYMENT, SO THERE IS A PORTION OF THE PAYMENTS THAT GO TOWARDS
EQUITY. 60% OF EVERY PAYMENT MADE GOES
TOWARDS EQUITY. WE ALLOW A RESTAURANT OWNER TO
BUY THE EQUIP MEN AT ANY POINT IN TIME USING THE EQUITIES
BUILT INTO IT. THERE ARE END OF TERM OPTIONS
ONCE WE GOT PAST 52 WEEKS. AS A LOYALTY PROGRAM WE CAN PUT
YOU ON OR YOU CAN CONTINUE MONTH-TO-MONTH WITH THE SAME
PAYMENT, BUT THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE IS THE FLEXIBILITY. IN THIS INDUSTRY, IN FINANCE,
NOBODY WANTS THE ASSET-BACKED. BUT WHAT WE DO IS WE SAY, IT IS
COOL, I WANT IT BACK. GIVE IT TO ME.
LET ME HELP YOU GROW. TODAY IT IS A SINGLE DOOR
FRIDGE. TOMORROW, IT IS THE TWO DOOR
FRIDGE. WE TAKE THE SINGLE DOOR FRIDGE
BACK AND ALLOW YOU TO PUT A TWO DOOR FRIDGE ON THE CONTRACT.
A REMARKABLE CONCEPT. TIM: YEAH. BECAUSE YOU ARE ACTIVE IN THESE
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND HAVE 70 CUSTOMERS, HAVE A GREAT VIEW ON
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN CERTAIN REGIONS OF THE WORLD, CERTAIN
PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY. WHAT IS HOT AND WHAT IS NOT IN
THE U.S. RIGHT NOW? JON: EXCLUDING THE WORLD CUP, WHICH
HAS BEEN VERY HOT IN MOST MARKETS, NOT JUST IN THOSE HOST
CITIES, BUT IN CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE WATCH PARTIES
AND SUPPORT OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, THERE IS A LOT GOING
ON. I WILL PREFACE THIS BY SAYING
THE U.S. AND CANADA HAS GONE THROUGH
THIS PERIOD OF BOTH ECONOMIC QUESTION AND ALSO HEAT.
HEAT BEING ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES FOR THE SUMMER.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO OUT.
ECONOMIC DISPARITY INTO THE USE OF DISPOSABLE INCOME, BUT THE
GROWTH HAS BEEN IN FAMILY-STYLE OPPORTUNITIES.
PEOPLE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THIS COVID HANGOVER.
THEY WANT TO GO OUT. THAT HAS BEEN THE BEAUTY OF THE
WORLD CUP BECAUSE YOU GO OUT AND SUPPORT YOUR TEAM
REGARDLESS OF WHAT TEAM THAT IS, AND WE ARE ALL MARCHING TO
THE SAME DRUM. WE ARE ALL PAYING ATTENTION TO
IT. YOU CAN WALK TO ANYBODY IN THE
EVENT, WHETHER IT IS AT A BAR OR RESTAURANT OR ANY OTHER
HOSPITALITY FUNCTION AND BE IN A FAMILY ENVIRONMENT.
WE ARE HUMANS. CAROL: TOTALLY GET IT.
WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. IT HAS BEEN FUN WALKING IN AND
AROUND NEW YORK CITY AND JUST EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.
THE COMMUNITY FEEL OF PEOPLE AT RESTAURANTS, BARS WATCHING
GAMES TOGETHER HAS BEEN COOL TO SEE.
HAVING SAID THAT, YOU COULD BE AND ARE A GREAT READ ON THE
ECONOMY THROUGH SMALL BUSINESS. JUST GOT ABOUT 40 SECONDS LEFT
HERE. YOU HAVE SEEN DIFFERENT CYCLES.
YOUR COMPANY HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A MILE.
HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE MARKET FOR THE RESTAURANT
COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW IN SMALL BUSINESS, REAL QUICKLY? JON:
THE RESTAURANT COMMUNITY IN THE U.S. RIGHT NOW IS EXPERIENCING A
PERIOD OF WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER GORMAN GROWTH.
WE ARE LOOKING AT EVERYBODY SCALING UP.
WHAT THEY ARE SCALING UP TO HIS THREE MONTH OR SIX MONTHS DOWN
THE ROAD BUT PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO PUT THEIR CAPITAL
AT WORK. THE ADVANTAGE AT SILVER CHEF IS
THEY KEEP THE CAPITAL SPECIFICALLY.
WE PROVIDE THE FINANCING TO MOVE FORWARD BUT THERE IS A
LEVEL OF GROWTH EVERYONE IS RAMPING UP TO.
THE ONE THING I HEAR MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IS THEY ARE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME GENERATING
OPPORTUNITIES FOR BUSINESSES TO MOVE FORWARD. CAROL:
INTERESTING STUFF. DEFINITELY A COOL TAKE ON SMALL
BUSINESS, RESTAURANTS, AND THE WORLD CUP.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, PRESIDENT OF U.S. OPERATIONS AT SILVER CHEF
JOINING US. TIM: COMING UP NEXT ON "BLOOMBERG
BUSINESSWEEK DAILY," WE GOT STOCKS ON THE MOVE.
THE S&P 500 UP 0.3%. THE NASDAQ COMPOSITE UP 0.4%.
DOW UP 0.2%. >> THIS IS "BLOOMBERG
BUSINESSWEEK DAILY" WITH CAROL MASSAR AND TIM
STENOVEC ON BLOOMBERG RADIO AND TELEVISION. CAROL:
ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY. IF YOU ARE JUST JOINING US,
GETTING READY FOR THE LAST HOUR OF TRADE ON THIS WEDNESDAY.
LIVE IN OUR BLOOMBERG HEADQUARTERS IN NEW YORK CITY,
BOUNCING AROUND HERE ON THE EQUITY TRADE.
LITTLE CHANGE, NOT EVEN UP 0.2% ON THE S&P. A GAIN OF 13 POINTS.
DOW WAS UP 0.2%. THE NASDAQ 100 SLIGHTLY LOWER,
DOWN 173 POINTS, GOOD FOR A DECLINE OF 0.6%.
USED TO BE LIKE A MEH TRADE -- FEELS TO ME LIKE A MEH. TIM:
LESS THAN EARLIER. CAROL: SO IT IS MEH. TIM:
YEAH, BUT WHAT DO YOU WANT IN JULY? CAROL: I KNOW. TIM:
YOU KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN WHEN THERE
ARE PARKING SPOTS IN BROOKLYN. ENERGY IS DOWN 1% IN TERMS OF
INDUSTRY GROUPS. UTILITIES, INFORMATION
TECHNOLOGY LOWER, COMMUNICATION SERVICES LEADING THE PACK IN
THE S&P 500. CAROL: I FEEL LIKE MY NEW INDICATOR OF
MARKETS OR JUST SOMETHING WACKY IS THE SOX.
JUST UP TO 1070% -- JUST UP 0.2%. TIM: IT WAS OVER EARLIER.
CAROL: MAYBE I CAME UP WITH THE WRONG
TICKER. IT IS DOWN. MY FINGERS DID NOT DO THE
BLOCKING CORRECTLY IN THE RUBRIC.
IT HAS BEEN DOWN 5%, NOW DOWN 3%. TIM: MAKING SURE.
IT IS MY FIRST DECLINER. CAROL: YOUR HEART WENT A LITTLE FAST.
TIM: IT IS GOING TO BE OK BUT I WILL
FIND A NEW ONE, BUT IT WILL BE OK. CAROL:
I AM CAROL MASSAR ALONG WITH TIM STENOVEC.
LET'S GET YOU SOME STOCKS ON THE MOVE.
WHERE DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN? >> I HAVE ONE MORE DECLINER FOR
YOU. WE ARE GOING TO START WITH SPACEX. CAROL:
I LOVE WHEN YOU DO THIS. >> SHARES ARE LOWER DOWN TODAY
AND LOWER THAN THE THRESHOLD WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING AT FOR WEEKS.
100 $35, SLIGHTLY LOWER BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT IS AN
IMPORTANT THRESHOLD. OF COURSE, THE TICKER IS SPXX.
IT HAS BEEN A VERY VOLATILE IPO. IT IS ALWAYS EASY AFTER.
IT SURGED NEARLY 50% IN THE FIRST THREE DAYS OF TRADING,
LOSING NEARLY A QUARTER OF THE VOLUME OVER THE NEXT THREE
SESSIONS. OBVIOUSLY VERY VOLATILE.
A FEW INTERESTING THINGS WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT.
PASSIVE FLOWS. SPACEX WAS ADDED TO THE RUSSELL
AND NASDAQ 100, AND WE HAVE SEEN SOME OF THIS BOOST FROM
PAST FUNDS, BUYING UP THE SHARES.
BLOOMBERG INTELLIGENCE SAYS THIS IS ABOUT $5.4 BILLION IN
BUYING. HOW LONG WILL THIS LAST? MOST OF THIS IS DONE SO THAT IS
ONE PRESSURE POINT. OF COURSE, WE WILL HAVE THE
FIRST QUARTER REPORT. THAT IS MASSIVE PRESSURE.
PEOPLE ARE WORRIED. THIS MASSIVE SPENDING ON XAI
AND THE AI BUILDOUT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR CASH FLOW?
THE NUMBERS ARE COMING. TIM: THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE WHO
ARGUE THAT THIS LIKE OTHER ELON MUSK COMPANIES IS NOT
NECESSARILY TRADING ON FUNDAMENTALS CURRENTLY. CAROL:
SO THE QUESTION IS, WILL IT EVER? ALSO, WILL IT EVER HAVE
FUNDAMENTALS THAT MAKE IT MORE REASONABLE IN TERMS OF ITS
VALUATION? WILL IT BE PROFITABLE? TIM:
ANALYSTS ARE POSITIVE ON IT. >> IF YOU LOOK AT WALL STREET,
WE HAD AN $800 PRICE TAG. OVER 80% OF ANALYSTS HAVE A BUY
RATING. IT IS OPTIMISTIC. NO ONE IS READY TO SAY SELL.
CAROL: SO, REVENUES FORECASTED JUST IN
REVENUES OF ABOUT $39 BILLION THIS YEAR.
WHAT IS THE MARKET CAP? TIM: OVER $2 TRILLION. >> YEAH. TIM: YEAH. CAROL:
FREE CASH FLOW. SUPER, SUPER NEGATIVE. TIM: WITH THE DECLINES, $1.7 BILLION
-- EXCUSE ME, ONE POINT. $7 TRILLION CAROL: THIS IS THE
PREDICAMENT THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ELON BECAUSE IF YOU
THINK ABOUT WHAT HE DID WITH TESLA, SAME STORY. >> EXACTLY.
THAT VOLATILITY COMES AND GOES. FOR THOSE WHO DARE TO SHORT
SOME OF THE NAMES, IT HAS BEEN A PAINFUL TIME. CAROL:
ARE PEOPLE SHORTENING THIS ONE? >> I DON'T THINK SHORT INTEREST
IS HIGH. IT IS HIGHER THAN I THOUGHT.
CAROL: GOOD ONE. BLACKROCK, I LOVE THIS.
THIS IS A GAINER TODAY. >> IT IS ALL ABOUT THE FEES AT
LEAST IN MY OPINION. BLACKROCK IS UP TODAY.
TICKER IS BLK. A BIG BET TO COMBINE INDEX
FUNDS THAT ARE LOW FEE PASSIVE BUT ALSO MASSIVE IN ASSETS WITH
HIGHER FEE ACTIVE ETS IN PRIVATE MARKETS AND THAT IS
PAYING OFF . SHARES ROSE. IF WE LOOK AT THE ASSETS UNDER
MANAGEMENT -- CAROL: THIS IS AMAZING BUT NOT A
SURPRISE FORGET. DENISTA: DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ZEROS TO
PUT THEIR. CROSSING $15 TRILLION FOR THE
FIRST TIME. AND OUT OF THIS IS PASSIVE S&P
FLOWS, BUT NONETHELESS IT IS FASCINATING.
PUSHING INTO PRIVATE FUNDS AND ONE IMPORTANT METRIC PEOPLE ARE
LOOKING AT, THEY REPORTED 8% GROWTH IN ORGANIC BASE FEES AND
INVESTORS REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT. IT MEANS THEY CAN CHARGE
INVESTORS MORE FOR THOSE MASSIVE FUNDS.
MAYBE THAT IS ONE REASON WE ARE SEEING A SPIKE. TIM:
20 SECONDS ON PAYPAL. DENITSA: PAYPAL OBVIOUSLY IS WORKING.
WE HAVE REPORTS OF GOLDMAN EVERCORE, A POSITION MAY BE
COMING. STOCK IS UP 17% TODAY. WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS, BUT A
HISTORIC MOVE. CAROL: YEAH, DEFINITELY A BIG MOVER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, DENITSA TSEKOVA WOODSTOCK MOVERS.
CHECK OUT DESTOCKED MOVERS -- CHECK OUT THE STOCK MOVERS
PODCAST ANYWHERE YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS. TIM:
COMING UP NEXT ON "BLOOMBERG BUSINESSWEEK DAILY,"
WE ARE GOING ALL IN ON THE EXTREME WEATHER FROM CALIFORNIA
HEAT TO FLASH FLOODING IN TEXAS AND WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE GRID.
THAT IS NEXT.
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