How He Turned $10K Into Millions in the Stock Market (ft. Gary Vaughan, Daily Stock Picks)

Welcome back to the Wolf Financial Live show. My name is Gav Blackburg. I'm your host for today and joining me is Gary from Daily Stock Picks. We've done a lot of different shows together, but we haven't been on a live stream. So, super excited for this. Gary has a storyried background in the markets, retiring early off of some amazing trades and still trading a multi-million dollar portfolio today, hosting a regular podcast, and coming up with new types of strategies to approach the market. It's a pleasure to have you on. We're going to get into all this and more. How you doing today? >> Good, Gab. I was at your we were just talking in the studio about your event in New York City and I know you guys are going to the which conference are you going to like next week? >> Future proof in a couple weeks. >> Yeah. Yeah. Anybody who like literally walk up to you, Evan, anybody on the Wolf team, just say hello because one of the things I just told you is I am 56 years old and the reason I went to that event was because you, Evan, and everybody that I know on the Wolf team, Jordan and EMP, I often say I wish I knew 20 years ago what I know now with my 40 years of experience in the market. And you guys know know most of that stuff. and the guests that you have on and and one of the things I was just gushing about was Chris Camilillo and Amit that robotics one that you had amazing and I know you have Tom Lee, Dan Ives, I mean you just have a great list of guests. So uh thank you for I mean I learn a ton and I bring up your podcast all the time and I just got off the um the space with Austin and the Neos guys and again I will reiterate if Troy and Garrett uh buy an English Premier soccer team I better get an invite to the owners box at that point in time. Me too. Me too. I'm all for it. I love the passion for this as well. I appreciate the kind words. Let's start out with today's market and then we can in a little bit go into some more background and maybe some of these past trades. But right now you're super active within the market regularly talking hosting pods. And I think this is a really interesting market, but it's an exciting market. There's a lot of opportunity. There's a lot of volatility. There is a pathway here for big AI trades and other pieces potentially. So how are you approaching it with your personal capital at the moment? I brought out um it's funny because I think people think that I trade a lot more than I actually do. And I saw a stat this morning about trade uh investors in the '9s holding for years and years and years, right? >> Uh versus today, I think the average stock is held for less than a year. And it's because there's a lot of retail traders and things of that sort. And I understand, you know, even when I'm on Your Spac's Stock Talk at 3 PM, um, there's a lot of traders in that crew that need to pay their mortgage based on trades. I don't think I have the risk tolerance to actually do that. So, I'm much more of a buy and hold guy. I think investors today don't know. Compounding is the eighth wonder of the world. And you guys know if you have your ETFs, you will wind up in a multi-million dollar portfolio like me with more buy and hold stocks and and I went over this morning some of my biggest mistakes in the past. Uh trimming Apple even at the top trimming Apple would have been better off buying and holding Google. Google was a stock that I I I traded in and out of. A a perfect story is Tesla. I bought my Tesla Model 3 in uh September of 2018. I think it was like $65,000. And uh one of my buddies, Clint, bought the same Model 3 Performance. He believed in Tesla so much that he sold his entire portfolio and just bought Tesla. Um today that is worth my guess $50 million, somewhere in that neighborhood, $20 million. I don't exactly know what his net worth is. It's it's it's significant. I didn't have that risk tolerance. So, I think a lot of what I go over on my podcast is we all have different risk tolerances. Your traders on Stock Talk, those guys have a far different risk tolerance than I do. But the goal is the same. The goal is to create that that wealth. And I think there's different paths to that wealth. So, I I I say this all the time. anybody coming at me and telling me that I'm a joke. Uh, you don't know my success. I don't know your success. So, criticizing somebody in the market is criticizing an opinion, not a fact. Because the only fact that we have is the back path, not the forward path. So today's market, it's probably more um I would say uncertain because you've had I mean since 2000 I think I counted it up 26 years you had three. There is nobody um that had a wood grain TV in their household that today has endured a multi-year downturn in the S&P. The last one was 20201 2002 even 2009 we came out of that financial crisis perfectly fine. >> So when when I hear these traders like you know a lot of people follow Mark Minverie and one of my partners Trendpider has a Minverie strategy that I use in there. Um when I hear a lot of traders I just kind of think I think people have to understand we're in a bull market and you're in a bull market until you're not. And the recessions that we've had over the time, they've been recovered from within months, not even years. So, there will be a time when you pull back and you do that. Hopefully, it's not at the time. I lived through 50% of my portfolio being reduced in um 2000. Same thing in 2008. I had far less money. If I was just retiring, I would have been uh horrible. But the reason I started the podcast is because I retired February 1st, 2000. And guess what happened over the last month, the the the next month? I lost 50% of my portfolio. The portfolio that I was supposed to live on for the rest of my life, I lost 50% of it. And so one of the guys, you know, we were had retired together. We started trading uh because nobody had anything to do during co. So we were trading and one of the guys said, "You love to talk. Why don't you just start a podcast?" And so I started a podcast and and I figured there's a lot of lessons and just like everybody who's got you guys have lesson you have guests on to teach people lessons. I think a lot of the people that have ha had success one of the things that we love to do Chris Camilillo emit they're much younger than I am but they still have found success in the market and they love teaching people that success but it doesn't mean that's the only the only road to success. So, I think listening to more people, I think it's a great way of actually hearing about the market. In today's market, I think you've got to listen because we've got the midterms coming up. Um, we know that Trump, the greatest stock trader ever, um, you know, with with some of the month, >> good god. And he traded this one stock, I think, that's up like 600%. He bought a bunch in June and it's it just got a military contract. it was like a $150 million market cap. So, >> if you followed him, you you've been rewarded in in a lot of ways. And he he he gauges himself by the success of the market. And that's where I I kind of think that the midterms will be interesting because I just said on the space with Austin, >> if the Democrats actually take the House or take the Senate or or take both, then I think any downturn in the market that you see might go ahead and get blamed on them, not necessarily on him. So following that quote unquote, what I always call rinse and repeat formula of buying the dip, it may not work going forward. So you constantly have to find new strategies and new ways of doing things. And I think that's what I've been successful over 40 years in doing. My grandfather told me when I was uh 15, I remember when I bought my first stock, he said if if I had just bought IBM in the early 60s when somebody in my office came in and told me to buy IBM, he go he said we would be the Rockefellers today. We wouldn't be, you know, the Vavona and the Vons. So I think it's again it's an interesting thing. I think today it's a it's a way of of finding winners and and and thinking that you're winning. But I go back to my tried andrue buy and hold and Apple I'll tell you the story of my Apple position because I think you and I haven't had a long form podcast so I don't think I've actually gone into the position. Apple is my it's my most famous one because I took I I I changed jobs in 2006 and I walked into the IT office and I said uh I said hey can I get an iPhone? because when you start a new job, you get a new phone. So I said, "Can I get an iPhone?" The IT guy said, "No, we're a I forget it was either Blackberry or it was um Google." And I don't remember which one, but he said, "No." And I literally said to him, I said, "Hey, um how many people come in here as new hires and ask for an Apple phone?" And he said, "Uh, we had 40 new hires today and every all 40 asked for an iPhone." I took my $10,000 that day. It was a signing bonus for the job. I took the $10,000 and I just bought Apple stock. Today, I still hold that $10,000. It's worth a couple million dollars. So, that it didn't take investing. It didn't take understanding. It took like Chris Camilillo says that social arbitrage of, hey, I found something in the market that's good. And today, you look at the devices for AI. Apples has the devices. What just came out earlier this year? It was clawed. Everybody bought Mac minis. They couldn't keep them in stock. Now you've got uh Grobbot coming on where where it's kind of a cloud-based system. I still think you need a device. And with Apple having 2 million devices and a brand new CEO, that was the only time when I thought about selling that Apple position was when Steve Jobs uh passed away or passed the torch to uh to to Tim Cook. But I tell you what, that company returns share the money to their shareholders. And I'm I'm here for for the money that they make and I think Nvidia is forming into that same company where they're just going to take a bunch of money and and those two stocks to me safest place in the market. Is Nvidia going to double? And I said this last August when they hit $5 trillion that company can't go to 10 trillion overnight. It's not going to do that in a year. So you need to take some of your position out of that Nvidia gain and put it into something that could double. and I just chose AMD and AMD has doubled since then and so my position in AMD is gone. So now I have a core position in AMD that's 100% profits and I just let it ride because I continue to think the only thing in this market that will stop AI the AI buildout are the bond rates and we're seeing that start to happen. We started the buildout of this AI race with um with with cash flow. Uh you know, it was b just basically cash flow that they were spending. Now it's borrowed money. And when you get to borrowed money, smart managers and smart CEOs are like, you know, maybe we want to slow stuff down. Maybe we can't do this. That's why I say I think still think those mag sevens with their cash flow is just the best and and safest bet in the market. But again, if you're 20, like you guys are in your 20s and 30s, you should be taking more risk than me that you your portfolio shouldn't be 50% Apple and 20% Nvidia. It should be risk because you want to compound those huge winners. >> So, I I don't I don't share my portfolio. I'm not one of those services that will give you the greatest stock picks of all time, but I have a solid foundation that should lead you to to independent wealth and and that's what's been successful for me and that's what I try and pass on to to my listeners. >> Great trade with Apple and I am curious to kind of take that and talk about more of the stocks that you've seen some similar mobile today. AMD you mentioned as one. Are there others that are large percentages of your portfolio that you're deeply invested in and in there for the long haul despite, you know, some of the murmurss around them? >> Yeah, I think Google, Amazon, the it's it's mostly those Mag 7 and I'll tell you after listening to um your robotics episode, uh I've always been kind of hot and cold with Tesla and it's one of my missed positions. the the the Model 3 that I mentioned that I would have bought if I had just bought $65,000 worth of Tesla stock instead of the car. Yeah, >> I think that's close to a million dollars today. >> So, you know, I I I miss as many as I take. But I think if you find a and I say this constantly on my podcast, find a good company with good products, good earnings, and good management. And I think that's a recipe for compounding. Uh look at Intel. Look at how good Intel, the new management has done with Intel. They just came out of a 20, you know, a 20 year drought where they just came back to their uh 2000 26 years it took them to get back to those highs. So, I think they've done a good job. Now, they don't have the earnings that I I I like, but you take some of those those mag seven and again I I I like to always say I'm a large cap tech investor. So, if you're going to throw me into something, you know, uh Brinker International, EAT, if you look at Eat Cake, those restaurants 3 months they're up 80%. Those aren't core positions in my portfolio, but one of the things that I do is I partner with those great portfolios. So like Seeking Alpha, which was a partner with you guys, they have a portfolio called Alpha Pix. It's returned 400% in like four years. For me, I got in early with that portfolio and I tried to trade those stocks. I didn't beat that portfolio because they had a strategy of buy and hold those winners. And so I wound up trading it for eight months and underperforming their performance. So what did I do? chain strategy. I bought the entire portfolio and I said, "You know what? I'm gonna take this entire portfolio. I'm gonna hold it by their holding percentage that they have and then I'm gonna take my skills as a trader with my 4hour algorithm in Trendpider and I'm going to trade it." So, in July, I called out EET. I said, "Hey, it's got some momentum. It's up here. We're up 40% since that pick in July." in a boring name and it's not always exciting but for me the large portion of my portfolio Gav and I know this when I'm a stock picker I'm not going to pick a restaurant and say this is the one that you want to go into cuz it's going to make you a ton of money I'm just not that great but when I find a stock with an advantage like a tech stock that's where I kind of go into it and that's where you know my portfolio goes into um you know Shai Shai is one of the great I I first met Shai high on one of your spaces and he started a new podcast with uh Brad the stock market nerd which is great and again I listen to all these podcasts and all these guys I called out Rocket Lab I remember on a space that you you probably were hosting and I was like what are you kidding me space you I'm going to go into Rocket Lab I think it was $4 then and he's done great with it those are the guys where I get the stock picks from and then I put them into my risk tolerance so I use the tools that I have, which is seeking alpha for fundamentals. And I I don't do a ton of research. I like to think that I I I'm good enough with my research and I have good enough tools to actually evaluate things within 10 to 15 minutes and then decide, does it deserve my money? Because my portfolio is not going to be made, Gav. I had a full-time job. I had a portfolio with 50 names in it. I could be I lost more money than I should have because I had 50 names. I like to have five to 15 names in my portfolio that I manage. Then I have the Alpha Pix portfolio which has like 40 names in it. That's a portfolio that's worked. That's a strategy that's worked. So again, I don't need to manage 40 or 50 names to find a new stock to actually get my money to put into it versus the microns versus the SanDisks that I I've invested in versus those kinds of ones. Do I think they have more room to run? I do >> and it's just based on your risk tolerance and I believe that those microns and those memories uh I think they have more room to run. So we we saw it. Jensen in 2024 called out power as the uh the next big bottleneck. And what was the leading uh S&P stock in 2024? It was Vistra Energy. Vistra Energy is some crap since then. But it was the best stock in 2024. >> Then he called out memory last year in July. So in August I put in my poor in my uh my newsletter. I said memory is it start going in. He told us last year to do energy and we had huge gains. And even in December, I was like, you need to buy Micron. And I used the tools that I had. Buy Micron. It all said buy Micron. And so I didn't get one of the mistakes that I made was I traded SanDisk, but I bought Micron, which was a mistake. But am I unhappy with 400%. >> A little when SanDisk gets 4,000%. But who knew? I mean, honestly, you know, if if if I was trading momentum, I probably would have done it. And that leads me to a good strategy for you guys that I just kind of figured out today. I I looked at SPMO, which is a um momentum ETF, and I kind of back tested this and I said, "Let's look at buying uh when they rebalance, they rebalance in September. When they rebalance, what's the number? I'm going to take the top four or five stocks and I'm going to find one stock and I'm going to say, "Okay, this is the one that I want to invest in for the next six months." When you've done that in the past, you've made a good amount of money because SPMO over the last five years has actually beaten uh QQQ, which is crazy to me, but again, it's beaten QQQ. And and I think its number one position is Micron. It's not even one of the mag seven. So again, strategies matter. I like to kind of say rinse and repeat. So I try these strategies over and over. And I think if somebody listens to me for a year, they probably get bored. Um because there's not a lot of, "Oh my god, I've got to buy this one. I've got to buy this one." It's, "Hey, what's Apple doing today? Is it at its 52- week high?" Um, you know, one of the we're I'm working with a developer on an app, and one of the things that I always say was like, for instance, earlier this year, I called out uh Nebius, buy it under $200 because I think it's going to go to 300. And it went to $300. I was loading up under $200. Uh same thing with Nen. Load up under 40 and wait till it gets to 50. We've had three of those trades already. With Apple, >> buy it at around $300 right now. It in the next 356 days, it will go to $330. A lot of people in today's market, Gav don't want that 10%. They want the home run. They want the 100%. They want to use options. They want to do things like that. I have never traded an option. I still won't trade an option. Sometimes I use leverage ETFs, but like for instance in April when when I looked at TQQQ, the weekly chart of TQQQ, and the RSI was at 28 and the MACD was like seven points below the oscillator. It had never been below the oscillator before, but it had gone down. I said, you know what? I'm loading up. I bought six figures of TQQQ, a leveraged ETF. That's crazy. That's Chris Camilillo style. I don't do like that, but I did it. I wound up taking 80% profit within the la the next two months. So again, it's about finding your risk tolerance and understanding and using the tools that you have. You and that that's what I try and teach people, not the specific stock. Look at a strategy that works. Rinse and repeat. If you can fi figure it out that it works once, it'll work again. And I think most of your stock pickers even do that where they find an industry and they find a stock and it's rinse and repeat. just do it again. >> Yeah, it's really well said. I want to take a look at a a couple of these as well to show people even when we are at all-time highs, valuations can be um not necessarily what they seem to be. Like Micron, people look at it, right? But this is just kind of overlaying the PE on the chart. I know people can use the forward PE as well. That's obviously really good one typically for using something like this. But even with just the regular PE ratio that we're seeing here in terms of what you look at the market in terms of cheap to expensive, right? They're basically sitting at an average right here at this price. You know, once they get up to maybe 1300, then you can start looking at the basic P is expensive. But right here, not necessarily a bad one. AMD is another one, right, that you pointed out earlier. People look at AMD, you know, they've had a huge run within the past year. You can see 340% uh versus SPY basically, you know, not making too much of a move right there. And when you overlay that one again, sitting basically in the midst of its average, right? Maybe when it gets up to 800 plus, yeah, sure, it can get expensive up there within these pieces, but at this range, not terrible, right? When you look at it on some of these ratios, you can look at other ratios as well and overlay them. But I do think kind of what you're getting at is, you know, people maybe get a little bit in their heads, right? Oh, these things have run and those pieces. But hey, Apple even here, like you're saying, there's an opportunity. >> Yeah. And and and one of your best guests, Jame Hamid from uh earnings hub. >> Hamid is amazing. Now, he thinks technicals are all hieroglyphics. I I I don't agree with him in that one, >> but the guy you go back, he's got his full uh portfolio on on Savvy Trader. And so you can and I tell my audience all the time when you get an alert that Jameid is buying something. Look into it. >> And he's the one that that convinced me, you know, Micron, that's why I bought Micron. I think I was in or before him, but I think I added a bunch of times when he added. He has a formula that has worked and it's fundamentals. And so he's in Rivian I know over Tesla. Um the reason I'm not in Riven is because I own a Tesla. And the big thing that what the reason why I love Tesla, >> 98% of my driving now, Gav, is on full self-driving. 98%. It's the last mile. >> You know, it's finding a parking spot. It's pulling into my own driveway. it's uh you know when when I want to go a little bit faster than what it wants to go. Those are the things where it's not as great yet. But good god, it is just amazing. And that's where we're going with robotics. And that's why I'm big on Tesla. But Rivian has also said they're going to have full self-driving. And the difference between the two is Rivian's going to have lidar. Now Elon has gotten rid of lidar because he said we don't need it because you have two eyes and so you don't need it. I will tell you just when I was going up to your uh your event in New York City, I drove from Atlanta to New York City and I drove in the Tesla and I was on the Pennsylvania Turnpike and there was a ton a ton of rain. I couldn't see 10 ft in front of me. >> It was crazy. >> Full self-driving. It was perfect. Now, it didn't do any It told me you can't go more than 40 miles an hour, but I wasn't even feeling comfortable going 40 miles an hour. Now, I trusted the computer. I have fallen asleep at times. I mean, it's just it's that good. And so thinking three years ago that I could literally uh hit go to New Jersey and and the car would just drive me the entire way, including backing into all the charging spaces. Um that would have never been in my mind. And so I think things are moving faster than you know. And I think AI is is getting there. And I think following a lot of these guys on on on Twitter and specifically on your spaces and stuff, I mean, it's m you guys don't charge me to be on there, but I'd probably pay to be on there to be to to be honest with you because it provides me so much good information and I think the information that's out there is good. You just have to make sure, you know, I used Finn Viz for years and I used Active Trader Pro for years. um the amount of mistakes that I made going from one website to another, seeing popups and different kind of stuff. You can you can pull up three different websites and they'll probably have three different pees for Micron or for Apple. And so I I always tell people make sure that you're getting the right information. And that's where I I trust, okay, I'm going to pay for these tools and I'm going to get the right information. Um, and and even on your your number one rule, my podcast, Gab, don't trust a douche on the internet. And I am that douche on the internet. And number two, don't trust Jim Kramer because the guy doesn't beat the S&P. And you and I both know if you bring that up, you get blocked on Twitter. >> You said it, not me. Uh, a lot of great thoughts here. I think you've given a a great game plan to your style of investing. It's that long-term hold of strong and solid companies. There's also an understanding that, hey, sometimes we're going to do some shorter term plays. They don't have to be 100% home run hitters, but taking a 10% win is great, right? Finding these companies, even if they have run a little bit if they still have that strong backing and that understanding, you can still get into them. I think there's a lot of great pieces. Uh we're just going to run for a few more minutes. I think one thing you did want to cover, well maybe you kind of touched a little bit was stock misses and then just maybe anything else in terms of you know where you'd point people towards hey if you want to take the first step to being staunch within your investing journey to building uh real mental fortitude within this here's what I would recommend. I'll tell you the the the stock misses. I missed Palunteer. I you know that 10% gain I I think I bought at 15. I sold at 25 thinking I was a genius. Thing ran to 160. Um you know again the Tesla thing. Uh maybe I'm I actually got allocated thousands of shares of SpaceX at 135 and I was going to I knew I was going to get dinged. I sold it at 165. Now is that a miss? I I made a hundreds of thousands of dollars in profit in literally 10 minutes and and I got dinged where I can't buy another IPO. But I don't buy IPOs many times because I don't like IPOs because I want those moving averages. I want those charts. I want that kind of stuff. >> The best advice I can give to your audience is to have a conversation with an AI LLM. Just go and ask it. I have this amount of investing experience. Here's my portfolio. Tell me what I need to do to get better. Do I need to understand fundamentals because I I may have SpaceX in my uh portfolio and it went from 135 up to 210 and I bought it at 210 and now I want to know why is it 135? Well, fundamentals matter at some point in time and that's why we saw the pullback in Palunteer. That's why you see constant pullbacks in Tesla. So, understand your fundamentals and then technicals. Literally, I have a 10-p part series on my newsletter of how I trade and how I do it. The first six parts are technicals. And you don't need to know technicals. Hamid is an exact example of why you don't need to know technicals. Buying good companies with good products with good earnings and good management, that's a recipe for success. So, I think a lot of your listeners can learn, hey, I just need to buy and hold because there's a lot of people out there who think their wealth is going to be, you see a 50% gain. You're like, oh my god, I should Everybody who buys a stock that goes up 50% in a month says, "I should have bought more." Everybody who buys a stock that loses 50% says, "I should have bought less." Right? >> And so, you have to know what you own. And one of the greatest investors of all time, Peter Lynch, he he he does this like six minute speech. He said, "If you have conviction in a stock, you shouldn't care if you're down 50%." Because if you if your thesis is correct, being down 50% means you can buy it on sale. Now, I'll tell you, one of my biggest losses, Gav, is that thought that I can't lose. And it was uh a month after I retired uh and it was co it was March and I was looking at oil and I think it was selling at the time $8 per barrel >> and I said you know what I'm going to go into a triple leveraged ETF UCO >> uh on oil and I'm just going to buy it because there's no way what what can I lose? It's $8. It's got to go up to 20 at some point. So I'm just going to buy it and hold it. And so I bought and I kept dollar cost averaging on the way down. I lost heavy six figures on that trade. 80% is what I was down in a month. I just took the loss. Now had I held that for the next year, I might have made some money. So I said this morning on my podcast, one of the biggest losses that I've had or most of the losses and most of the missed opportunities, it's cuz I didn't wait long enough. >> But remember, I'm not in options. So for options, you have to have two things, right? You have to have the direction and the time. I just have to have the direction, right? And so for me, I I bring up a lot of your >> leverage one time does factor. >> Time does matter. And I'll tell you, go and look at a history of TQQQ versus QQQ. Oh, yeah. buying. I have a trend line that I have put in there since co and I will buy TQQQ under that trend line and I will just continue to buy buy it under that trend line for years because right now it's still moving up there. Um it will come down it will come down to that trend line and I'll have a chance to buy it again. But I think a lot of your audience just doesn't understand that compounding is how it's time. Time is your best friend in this market. Um, everybody's retirement in the US is tied to the stock market. There is a an inherent uh political reason to make the market go up. And and if you have a dollar, you know, one of the things that I I really hate is people think that these prediction markets are investments. They're not. They're just not. You're making a bet on on on some type of thing. It's not an investment. There there are you know these prediction markets pointed out that hey it's an investment. It's not. >> When you take a dollar of money and put it into Apple, Apple is taking that dollar of your money and producing a product to hopefully sell it for $2 at some point. So that dollar comes back to you as $2. Prediction markets don't do that. They take a portion of your, you know, of your thing and then if you're right, it's great. M >> but I think a lot of your guests, you know, Chris and and Hamid and Amit and and you know, even your your 3 p.m. show every day, >> there is so much information on your specific channels that that people can get. I love it. I mean, I tune in all the time. I think when I was growing up, it was CNBC and there was a lot of the media portion. I think you guys have taken that over. I think you guys and a few others. >> Well, the podcast, too. I mean, I brought up Shai. You know, Jameid has his own podcast. I know Steve Eisenberg has his own podcast, The Compound and Friends. I just learned a strategy last year from a guy Joe Tteranova who did the research and he said buy um buy right at the time of the election, midterm election, and hold until June. And your average return is like 20%. And the reason is because usually the the incumbent, meaning the the today the Republicans, will lose the midterms and then you have basically just a jam in in all of the uh all of the the the legislation and the market loves nothing more than stag, you know, just being stagnant and no new policies. >> Yeah. Uh that's almost like um what Matt Hogan who's the chief investment officer at Bitwise told me last week where it was literally Bitcoin was at like 63K and he's like hey you know I think this is at the bottom. He goes cuz we just keeping having bad news and it's not even affecting it anymore. We're just sitting there. We're in the same place for four or five months. Bad news isn't affecting anymore. You got one spark of good news. You got one small catalyst and that's your opportunity to run up 20% in the next two days uh right after that. So he had great thoughts. We are uh running a little bit up on time here, but I think that the messages have been awesome. Gary, any final comments for you that you want to share with people today? >> No, just tune in to my podcast. I mean, I'm on uh usually three, four days a week. Yeah. >> So, and and my email address is available. I mean, I'm sure Gav is going to link it down there. I got a free newsletter out there. So, I'm I'm just one of those people that you have on that kind of gives back. I do have a payw wall on some stuff, but I'm pretty open about stuff. I'm not in here to make a killing. If the podcast ended tomorrow, my I I would still build my $2 million house that I'm building in Florida based just on cash. Gav, >> nice. >> So, I I'm not Yeah, I I'm one of these guys who just wants to to help some people and and if if my if my message doesn't hit you, there's plenty of people out there for you. Don't bash anybody. And hopefully the comments doesn't come for me because I know some of uh some of the comments do come for me. But again, you know, just hey, the market is the market. Uh, I think time is your friend and and please consider buy and hold as a great strategy because it's worked for me. >> Well said. Yeah, the email like you mentioned as well is daily stockpick three the number threegmail.com and people can also go check you out right on social media. It's just daily stockpick three as well on there on Twitter. Easy place to find it. And then inside of your Twitter bio, you have a link tree and it literally has all of your links inside of it. If they want to find any of your socials, any of your music that you mentioned, Spotify, it's it's all right there. >> They're they're the big one. They they've they've promoted me. I think I rank number one when you look up stocks on Spotify. They're they're fantastic. Those guys have been great. Huge supporters. >> I love to see it. Well, I encourage everybody to take this to the next level and go dig into some of that content. But great messages. I love it. 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