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Goldman Sachs, their price target is $328. So, they see a 50% upside in the stock.
Context The speaker is discussing Goldman Sachs' bullish outlook on Nebius and says: “Goldman Sachs, their price target is $328. So, they see a 50% upside in the stock.”
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Goldman Sachs just came out with a
glorious price target for Neveah stock, which is also the company that just
partnered with Nvidia on releasing their ultra-fast
token inference chips via Groq. They'll be one of the first actually providing
access to those chips to compete with the ultra-fast token generators of
Cerebras for that low latency, almost imperceptible latency artificial
intelligence that you can get from these SRAM chips. Just kind of cool. But,
Goldman Sachs' target and their note is pretty neat. Let's go through what their
forecast is. It is higher than my forecast, our Stock AI forecast. Our
Stock AI forecast right now has Neveah sitting at a fair value of about $238.
That represents about a 7 and 1/2% upside at the time of this recording.
Goldman is a little bit more bullish. So, let's go through some of their notes
on this. So, this is a Goldman note. Neveah as I noted here is providing the
first Groq production chips for ultra-fast tokens in competition with
Cerebras. They indicate that deals closed, and I
think this is one of the most important metrics. It's the
for for artificial intelligence right now. It's the spot pricing for these
data centers. Deals closed in the second quarter closed at $20 million a
megawatt, that's $20 billion a gigawatt, right? Just multiply by 1,000.
And a sub-two-year payback period are expected to be contributing starting in
late Q4. That's great. If you can sign deals like that regularly and have a
sub-two-year payback for all the hardware, really, really good. That's
anti-AI bubble narrative. That's pro chip build-out. That's pro Nvidia.
That's like just good. That's the easiest way to put it. It's good.
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that time. So, it's going to be a really good day to get in before. But, what you
got to know about these uh
sort of gigawatt deployments and this 20 billion dollars per gigawatt in these
sub-two-year payback periods is the entire
AI frontier ecosystem is looking at these numbers because Elon Musk sits at
this forecast of hey, we're going to make 30 billion dollars to 50 billion
dollars. That one's dead. In artificial intelligence
compute revenue. And that's kind of the gold standard for getting to your
maximum pricing on compute that really gives SpaceX and Nebius and Coreweave a
big upshot. The problem with this is this is sort of your short-term
spot pricing. So, we'll call it short spot pricing short-term. And the idea
here is hey, like we need compute now. We don't have the time to wait for all
the data centers to come online. Whoever's got compute will pay a premium
for it right now. We don't actually think that that sort of pricing will
last. And so, it's not a surprise to me that we're seeing contracts for
longer-term agreements being priced at lower than that, which in this case is
about 20 billion dollars. That's actually even better than I thought
though. I thought we'd be closer to about 15, 14 billion dollars per
gigawatt per gigawatt. So, Nebius signing contracts above 20 billion is
pretty good. But, it does also reiterate that in the long term this 30 to 50
might not be mega sustainable, but we'll keep an eye on it because there is talk
that Nevius per Goldman is also quote-unquote negotiating shorter-term
agreements in the 40 to 50 billion dollar or million per megawatt range,
which should serve as a meaningful top-line contributor in 2027 beyond.
Yeah, if you can price over here regularly, great.
But, right now that's only talk of being negotiated. I mean, those are the words
here, right? We're closing deals over 20 bill, but we're talking about deals
above the 40 to 50 or in the 40 to 50 range. Okay,
fine. We'll see. Nevius obviously a much smaller company than SpaceX or you know,
even Google. Google, for example, raised 86 billion dollars in the last few
months. SpaceX raised 80 billion dollars. Nevius has like 8 billion
dollars of cash, right? Like and and the size of the company is is less than 80
billion dollars. It's like a 50 billion dollar company. So, much much smaller
company and player compared to these big guys, but it's good to see this for
what's that what's pricing doing on the edge, right? And this will help with the
price target for Nevius from Goldman Sachs. So, preparations are underway for
materially higher deployment in 2027. 2027 capacity, some of it is being
deliberately retained rather than contracting it today
reflecting management's confidence in future pricing.
I actually don't like that idea. I don't like the idea that they're holding back
inventory on purpose to squeeze pricing up. So, it's sort of like artificially
holding back supply to squeeze pricing up. I get it for wanting to lock in
higher earnings driving contracts, but I think
that's a misleading
spot price that you're negotiating because you're artificially holding
supply that you potentially have. And we're not actually getting a real
market clearing of what those spot prices should be or what we should
expect those longer term contracts to actually run at. So, I don't love that
as much. What I do think is kind of cool is that
they did make a switch to joining the Bloom Energy fuel cell movement. We made
a big video on Bloom Energy and Nancy Pelosi buying it. And this is kind of
cool. One of the biggest risks with Bloom Energy was their customer
concentration risk with Oracle and now you got Nebia's joining in as well,
which is actually great. So, this is fantastic news.
Uh in addition to that, they have secured access to hundreds of megawatts
of behind the meter power generation. This is really important so you can get
faster permits for your data centers. Uh you might still require, depending on
what kind of behind the meter power generation, so like not considering the
utilities you're using, you might still have to get clean air permits. So,
there's still permitting, but I don't really think permitting's going to stand
too much in the way. I know it's a political
uh topic that comes up a lot, but I don't think like David Sachs says, "Oh,
you know, politics is going to kill deployment of data centers and that'll
actually hedge uh data centers expanding too quickly." I don't think so. They'll
be able to expand just just fine. But anyway, they're expanding uh and adding
to their CPU um fleet as well for agentic workloads.
This is kind of the range that I think I I wrote this earlier. I think if you get
sub eight billion dollars per gigawatt, things get scary. If you start falling
below that, signing at 20 is great, especially since I think mostly we're at
like 14 to 15 on longer contracts. Uh and if you could get anywhere over
30, that's fantastic. If you could get to 50, scaled up, not shortage pricing,
that's ridiculous. But that probably requires AGI and robotics, but it would
be such a boon for all of these data center providers, SpaceX,
Nebia's, uh you name it. Uh Goldman Sachs here suggests that
their operating cash flow is doing well. I wrote probably because of deposits. It
turns out just the very next line Goldman then says that 70% of deals
closed in Q2 included upfront payments. I do think that this is a little bit of
a risk including $9 billion of upfront funding because when you actually go
into the cashflow statements for these companies, they could look really
exciting uh because you're like, "Oh my gosh,
there's just there's so much cash coming in. This is great. Look at this. We've
got $4.5 billion of cash over here. Wow. Yeah, we spent $8 billion on hardware
but we brought in 4.5. Yeah, well 4.4 of that was upfront deposits, deferred
revenue, right? So we have to be careful that in the future
those deposits won't come in so those numbers won't look as good. And so as
long as you're aware of that then I think that's okay. That's important. A
lot of these also have pretty high cancellation costs. So you know, it's
unlikely that uh companies really want to walk away
from the secure uh compute that they've secured just
because the cancellation costs are probably over 50% but we're not sure.
There's not a lot of color on exactly what all of these cancellation costs are
for all these various different companies.
Uh but I do think that Nebius has pricing power and how they can handle
their cancellation clauses. They don't want to get left holding the bag
although they still might. Right? So it depends. It all depends on that number.
What's that megawatt number, right? The millions per megawatts or billions per
gigawatts. Okay.
Uh selling out compute as it comes online, we see uh pricing remains
constructive for Blackwell GPUs. Pricing's actually been moving up uh
quite a bit. So I have a note that I saved in the Meet Kevin app. I remember
you get all our Meet Kevin app. You can you can download that for free and get
the Alpha Wire free right now but there are obviously things inside of the Meet
Kevin uh courses that you can get through the Meet Kevin app uh that you
just can't get um outside of the course membership. So, what I think is really
interesting is this chart right here. This is under our course member stock
tab right now. These are rental rates for GPUs.
What you could actually find is in this red box I added, you really have the
Claude A Gentic coding pop. And so you can see kind of that excess demand that
came in for chips at that time. And if you look at the trend line and
you draw a trend line on GPU pricing before the A Gentic pop, you get this
lower line right here. And after the A Gentic
Claude pop, you can actually see that we are climbing on rental rates at a
faster rate of growth than we were before that moment. So, we are now
creating this wedge here if you will of extra profitability coming to these
GPUs. And it's probably why we're seeing like the RTX
6000 went up 35% MSRP you know, for for a retail buyer it's gone up like that
was just in the last quarter. For a retail buyer it's gone up like 2x over
the last year. So, you know, some of these chips are getting more expensive
because they are being used in so many different inference applications and
it's a good thing. The sustainability is obviously what we
want to pay attention to. So, Goldman Sachs,
their price target is $328. So, they see a 50% upside in the stock.
I will say if I look at their balance sheet, their balance sheet is actually
pretty decent. They've got $8 billion of cash.
They've got $1.4 billion of bills and they have long-term debt of about eight.
It's yellowish, right? Like it's not super perfect, but it's not like
Broadcom or Oracle where you're like, "Oh my gosh, that's a lot of debt." Or
worse like UPS, right? Okay, then if I look at this projected
yield by 2030. So, this is sort of like a forward pricing model. I get to a
you know, projected future yield of about 13.9
on a PE basis. And
that's 2030. That's mostly because we don't expect them to be profitable until
2028. So, you kind of have to use some forward numbers to really price this.
Goal again is to be profitable in 2028 and and there's some significant growth
expected between now and the end of the decade
if they can go profitable. So, biggest risk factors
in my opinion profitability and that the markets get
misled by upfront deposits. You know, they get confused by that. And the
balance sheet is okay. And I'm most concerned in the
sustainability of these negotiations. Even at 20 million per megawatt, that's
great, but once we really start scaling, are we going to be able to maintain that
pricing? I hope so. I hope this is more sustainable than just
a temporary bounce that we're seeing because of a genetic coding and once we
get caught up with that, we go back to trend. Because if we go back to trend,
all of these prices have to come down 20%
at least. Going to take you to about
Yeah, probably about 20% reduction in GPU
per hour pricing that's going to extend payback periods. These are some of the
things to watch for, but that's an overall breakdown on Nevius and why
there's about a $330 price target from Goldman for this
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